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Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by m463 on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @02:07AM (#42180740)
I think of the last generation of pro-level film cameras.

They were expensive, but well designed and durable, yet ... who wants to pay in time and money to develop film every 36 pictures?

I think some really good gas cars only make sense if you use them infrequently to haul heavy things or lots of passengers.

Otherwise it is getting cheaper to run an EV - you might even charge it with electricity you capture yourself.

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by yftsui on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @04:27AM (#42181494)
Develop film takes time, same as why somebody wait for hours and hours just to get an EV charged? The “last generation” can “recharge” to 450miles in 3 minutes at a gas station then move on.
Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by vel0city on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @10:56AM (#42184868)
> same as why somebody wait for hours and hours just to get an EV charged?

I spend hours a year more waiting for gas pumps for my ICE than I spend waiting on my EV to charge. And I put way more miles on my EV than my ICE.

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by quantified on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @06:55PM (#42189368)
Are you lucky enough to own your own house, do you put up with a corporate landlord/big condo, or are you in street parking?
Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by vel0city on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @07:31PM (#42189609)
I live in a single family residence like the majority of households in the US.

My point still stands. Despite driving more miles on my EV my ICE wastes my time on pumping gas especially before all the time I waste with routine maintenance. I am far from alone.

Why would anyone waste their time going to gas stations all the time and wait for oil changes and have to deal with all that maintenance of things like timing belts and what not?

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by quantified on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @07:35PM (#42199756)
Sounds like you have a residence where you can charge overnight. That's a nicety right there. For everyone who can't, is it faster to get 400 miles by finding a place to charge and waiting on the charging or by filling a tank?
Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by vel0city on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @11:35PM (#42201159)
Sure it's a nicety, but it's also pretty common. Most households in the US would be able to do it.

You'll spend considerably more of your life standing next to a gas pump than they spend waiting for their cars to charge. And you'll spend more money per mile in the end for the energy cost. And yet somehow you'll continue to feel superior about it. Congrats on spending so much of your life pumping gas my dude. I'm glad I don't have to spend nearly as much time anymore.

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by two_handfuls on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @11:47AM (#42185452)
The EV charges while you sleep. You always start your journey with a full tank.

If you can't do that then, yes, an EV is less convenient than a gas car that is true.

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by marxisttemp on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @05:51PM (#42188934)
Home ownership is a distant dream for most Americans, and the sort of rentals that have parking AND EV charging tend to be extremely pricy luxury new-builds.

Gas is unfortunately going to be around for a long, long time for normal working-class Americans.

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by vel0city on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @07:42PM (#42189675)
Home ownership rate today is pretty similar to what it's been for decades.
Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by marxisttemp on Friday November 22, 2024 @09:46AM (#42214229)
It’s been bad for decades. Nobody can afford housing anymore. Get out of the tech bubble
Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by vel0city on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @05:49PM (#42312518)
I don't necessarily live in a "tech" city, far away from California.

Many people my age own their homes around me. They work in HR, they work in finance, they work in construction, they work as insurance sales.

The median home price for a lot areas around me is ~$500k. Meaning there's also a lot of homes <$500k. And I'm in one of the largest metro areas in the country with a bus stop right outside my door, so it's not like I'm in the sticks.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RHORUSQ156N

2000Q1: 67.1%

2024Q3: 65.6%

Go back even further to 1990Q1, and it was 64%. It had a peak of 69.2% in 2004Q4. In the 80s it was pretty much 63-64%.

Get out of California.

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by floxy on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @06:21PM (#42199184)
Homeownership Rate in the United States

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RHORUSQ156N

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by more_corn on Thursday November 21, 2024 @01:49PM (#42207350)
^ This is patently false.
Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by marxisttemp on Friday November 22, 2024 @09:46AM (#42214230)
Which part.
Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by derwiki on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @12:02AM (#42190960)
With PG&E it really feels like the cost to run an EV keeps increasing.