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Re:Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties by bigstrat2003 on Saturday November 16, 2024 @06:03PM (#42160283)
You need to move, yesterday. Yes, moving sucks. No, ideally you wouldn't have to. But at the end of the day you are just plain shooting yourself in the foot if you continue to live in a place that absurdly expensive.

Like dude, you could buy an awesome house in just about any other part of the country if you truly have $1m in liquid wealth. You have options to own a house, you just have to act on them.

Re:Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties by 47282847 on Saturday November 16, 2024 @10:23PM (#42161750)
What’s this fixation on house ownership? It doesn’t make sense rationally. Stock markets always perform better, easily beating ownership and the hassle and associated risks of managing property.
Re:Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties by fragmede on Sunday November 17, 2024 @12:15AM (#42162149)
Because you can build things like the house we're commenting on. If that's not your thing that's totally fine, but sometimes people want to spend way their hard earned money on adapting their living situation to suit their desires.

If I'm going to sink that kind of time/money/effort into building a thing, I don't want a landlord to be able to come in and take it away from me with some legal loophole or by raising my rent.

Re:Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties by mikem170 on Sunday November 17, 2024 @12:29AM (#42162195)
One factor: It's an investment that you can get for 20% down, or less. You can't borrow that much to gamble in the stock market. All is well as long as the value of the house doesn't go down.

People like the idea of making money. They are used to real estate always increasing in value.

We'll see what happens as boomer demand ages out.

Re:Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties by kasey_junk on Sunday November 17, 2024 @08:02AM (#42163990)
And the loan is heavily subsidized by the federal government (and frequently by other governments as well).

US policy is to make real estate a fundamental part of Americans wealth. It’s worked! Since the policy started we’ve gone from hovering in the 40% homeownership rate to hovering in the mid 60s.

It’s also made housing expensive and homogeneous.

Re:Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties by 47282847 on Sunday November 17, 2024 @04:55PM (#42167664)
Even with subsidies taken into account, the ROI is still higher with stocks and the risks a lot higher with properties. 401k is also subsidized. See studies.

I understand that there may be arguments individually for the decision and emotional safety is one, but it should be based on fact, not myth and misunderstanding.

Re:Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties by Suppafly on Monday November 18, 2024 @03:37PM (#42176692)
Even you don't care about owning, just the idea that you can afford 10x space for less money than a crappy studio in a HCOL area.
Re:Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties by kelnos on Sunday November 17, 2024 @05:24AM (#42163253)
Some people value other things than homeownership.

Some people value living in their area (regardless of what it costs) for reasons that make moving undesirable.

Re:Show HN: I built a(nother) house optimized for LAN parties by fastball on Sunday November 17, 2024 @10:42PM (#42169543)
Well this person is complaining about not being a homeowner so...