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Re:Looking for a Job Is Tough by tharkun__ on Thursday November 14, 2024 @09:00PM (#42143301)
It's actually "funny" in the sense that "being racist" is apparently only possible if you're white.

Indians rejecting Pakistanis? Not racist

Indians rejecting Chinese? Not racist

Chinese rejecting Indians? Not racist

The concept of racism, i.e. "being different enough from me"-ism exists everywhere. But somehow it's fine if you're not white.

Re:Looking for a Job Is Tough by defrost on Thursday November 14, 2024 @09:09PM (#42143339)
In your opinion.

Outside of that, examples abound of racist behaviour by non white peoples, often toward other non white people.

Re:Looking for a Job Is Tough by tharkun__ on Thursday November 14, 2024 @09:49PM (#42143548)
I think there is a misunderstanding there.

I my opinion all of those are racist.

But in the current woke public opinion it's not and only whites can be racist.

I would love if it was possible to label racism whenever it appears but it's not possible without being called a racist yourself if you are white.

Looking at sibling parent poster there mentioning Germany, a similar example would be trying to make rational arguments about Israeli conduct with regards to settlements in the west bank. Any German even thinking out loud about those would be labeled a Neo-Nazi.

Re:Looking for a Job Is Tough by defrost on Thursday November 14, 2024 @10:33PM (#42143749)
> But in the current woke public opinion it's not and only whites can be racist.

In my opinion "the current woke public opinion" is almost entirely a bogeyman construction of primarily the US right wing media with trailing support from their UK, AU, and CA siblings.

It's rare (ie. never.) that I read in "left wing" media of any substance articles about the pressing need for kitty litter trays for Furry students.

It's disturbingly commonplace to hear of what can only be performative manufacted outrage about such things from the asshole tanning bowtie wearing media wing.

The conclusion is that the statement " in the current woke public opinion it's not and only whites can be racist" is very much a localised subjective opinion and not any kind of actual global truth.

Re:Looking for a Job Is Tough by tharkun__ on Thursday November 14, 2024 @11:33PM (#42143990)

    localised subjective opinion and not any kind of actual global truth.
Global truth: definitely not. But we're also not talking about that. At least I'm not. I'm talking about "western realities". In the parent sibling's Germany example, the only thing relevant is Germany, not globals. If you're a white German in Germany, then in regular media public opinion a lot of what should be normal pro/con type discourse is easily labeled "Neo-Nazi". So much so that people self-censor. Except for the real Neo Nazis. Americans can be "proud to be American". A German proclaiming to be "proud to be German" is a Neo Nazi.

And yes in "NA" context, I can definitely say that it's not "right wing outrage" construct. It actually feels like this conversation is the perfect example now. I'm absolutely not a Trump supporter for example. Not even a republican supporter. But it's absolutely my belief that H1Bs (which primarily means Indian nationals) is a very detrimental construct for America. I would never in my wildest dreams mention this "IRL" in my regular social circles for fear of being labeled racist. I am actually struggling to write any further here right now without fear of being labeled racist. I absolutely want to avoid "being thrown in the Trump camp" as well. I absolutely abhor the kind of vote buying Musk engaged in for example. A million a day for a signature? WTF!? It's such a brazen thing for a person with money to do, it's against everything I always believed the United States of America, the leader of the free world, would stand for. But I guess I was just naive. The world is way less fair than I hoped it was. I do recognize that. I still hate it.

Re:Looking for a Job Is Tough by randomdata on Friday November 15, 2024 @04:42AM (#42145336)
> I am actually struggling to write any further here right now without fear of being labeled racist.

You are a racist. Now, with that out of the way, how has your life changed? It hasn't, has it? So, what brought on the fear, then? Have you invented racism in your head as being something it is not?

Re:Looking for a Job Is Tough by tharkun__ on Friday November 15, 2024 @09:15PM (#42153542)
Dunno who's down-voting you but:

My life did not change because you called me racist in this particular conversation.

If my regular social circle or work environment thought I was racist however, my life very definitely would change.

It does not matter whether I'm actually racist (by some imaginary objective standard) or what "the world" would think about me. Nor what might qualify or not qualify in some other part of the world and whether or not I was wild. What matters to each person is always their own current local reality. Whether they like it, whether it's fair, whether it makes sense objectively, or not.

Re:Looking for a Job Is Tough by _heimdall on Friday November 15, 2024 @07:38AM (#42146348)
This has been my experience in the US as well, but I'm not so sure that this paradigm extends outside the US.

I lived in Europe for a few years and didn't feel that same context as well - it wasn't almost assumed that white people were racist and anyone might be seen as racist regardless of their skin color or heritage.

Re:Looking for a Job Is Tough by dang on Saturday November 16, 2024 @01:56PM (#42158341)
Please don't start flamewars on HN, and please avoid generic ideological tangents (and ideological battle generally). It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

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