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Re:OpenAI, Google and Anthropic Are Struggling to Build More... by og_kalu on Thursday November 14, 2024 @01:14PM (#42139257)
At this point, AGI means many different things to many different people but OpenAI defines it as "highly autonomous systems that outperform humans in most economically valuable tasks"
Re:OpenAI, Google and Anthropic Are Struggling to Build More... by troupo on Thursday November 14, 2024 @01:56PM (#42139793)
This definition suits OpenAI because it lets them claim AGI after reaching an arbitrary goal.

LLMs already outperform humans in a huge variety of tasks. ML in general outperform humans in a large variety of tasks. Are all of them AGI? Doubtful.

Re:OpenAI, Google and Anthropic Are Struggling to Build More... by ishtanbul on Thursday November 14, 2024 @03:14PM (#42140687)
Yes but they arent very autonomous. They can answer questions very well but can’t use that information to further goals. Thats what openai seems to be implying >> very smart and agentic AI
Re:OpenAI, Google and Anthropic Are Struggling to Build More... by og_kalu on Thursday November 14, 2024 @02:32PM (#42140183)
No, it's just a far more useful definition that is actionable and measurable. Not "consciousness" or "self-awareness" or similar philosophical things. The definition on Wikipedia doesn't talk about that either. People working on this by and large don't want to deal with vague, ill-defined concepts that just make people argue around in circles. It's not an Open AI exclusive thing.

If it acts like one, whether you call a machine conscious or not is pure semantics. Not like potential consequences are any less real.

>LLMs already outperform humans in a huge variety of tasks.

Yes, LLMs are General Intelligences and if that is your only requirement for AGI, they certainly already are[0]. But the definition above hinges on long-horizon planning and competence levels that todays models have generally not yet reached.

>ML in general outperform humans in a large variety of tasks.

This is what the G in AGI is for. Alphafold doesn't do anything but predict proteins. Stockfish doesn't do anything but play chess.

>Are all of them AGI? Doubtful.

Well no, because they're missing the G.

[0] https://www.noemamag.com/artificial-general-intelligence-is-...

Re:OpenAI, Google and Anthropic Are Struggling to Build More... by fragmede on Thursday November 14, 2024 @05:08PM (#42141745)
It's not just marketing bullshit though. Microsoft is the counterparty to a contract with that claim. money changes hands when that's been achieved, so I expect if sama thinks he's hit it, but Microsoft does not, we'll see that get argued in a court of law.
Re:OpenAI, Google and Anthropic Are Struggling to Build More... by snapcaster on Monday November 18, 2024 @10:10AM (#42172995)
At least it's a testable measurable definition. Everyone else seems to be down boring linguistic rabbit holes or nonstop goal post moving