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Re:OpenID Connect specifications published as ISO standards by woodruffw on Sunday November 10, 2024 @02:17PM (#42101988)
The point was that countries clearly recognize standards that aren't bound to an ISO (or other international standards) process, given that every country in the world uses TCP, HTTP, and HTML.

(Unless we're now considering the IETF/W3C an international standards body? I can't find a good list of these anywhere.)

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Re:OpenID Connect specifications published as ISO standards by patmorgan23 on Sunday November 10, 2024 @03:13PM (#42102331)
From wikipedia:

>The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) is the main international standards organization for the World Wide Web.

>The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is a standards organization for the Internet and is responsible for the technical standards that make up the Internet protocol suite (TCP/IP).

I would also add IEEE to this list. I think it's pretty clear these groups are international standards organizations, it think it's pretty odd that OpenID Connect wasn't circulated as an RFC and they went the ISO route.

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Re:OpenID Connect specifications published as ISO standards by pclmulqdq on Sunday November 10, 2024 @04:48PM (#42102832)
Many standards are ISO standards as well as a standard from some other body. I have some involvement with the floating point standard, and that is mostly an IEEE standard, but the chair of the committee does ISO standardization as well for each revision.
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Re:OpenID Connect specifications published as ISO standards by IshKebab on Monday November 11, 2024 @02:46AM (#42105236)
What about JSON? Typescript?

This seems like a made up requirement.

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Re:OpenID Connect specifications published as ISO standards by mooreds on Sunday November 10, 2024 @02:30PM (#42102072)
That's fair. And this type of standardization is far enough outside my wheelhouse that I don't know how to judge Mike's comments. He's pretty deep in that space, so I take it at face value. I don't think he'd have pushed this effort without there being value.

Looked on the OpenID mailing list site[0] and didn't find any discussion, so can't offer any other insight. I suppose you could contact Mike[1] and ask why it is such a big deal)?

> Unless we're now considering the IETF/W3C an international standards body?

Most of what I know about standards bodies I learned from Heather Flanagan, who is/was active in a lot of these and did a great presentation at Identiverse in 2022[2] about this very topic.

0: https://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo

1: https://self-issued.consulting/contact-me

2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBP8ffezycY

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Re:OpenID Connect specifications published as ISO standards by Dalewyn on Sunday November 10, 2024 @09:24PM (#42104140)
Countries recognize standards broadly along two avenues:

* Internationally recognized standards organizations, such as ISO (literally International Organization for Standardization). Republic of Backwoods and Kingdom of Flyover can't really do much against the majority of the whole world agreeing on something.

* Bigger Gun and/or First Past The Post Adoption, mostly exercised by the US in recent decades. Examples include practically all IT standards, aviation standards, and so on.

If you manage to combine them, you're basically unstoppable at conquering the world.

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