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Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by mattmcknight on Monday January 05, 2009 @02:50PM (#420965)
Apparently it was the Twitter admin help desk application that was hacked. It's been taken offline. The phishing was separate.

"It will be good for the people calling for more secure, standards based authentication on Twitter and elsewhere around the web." [from article]

"it is important to note that OAuth would not have prevented either of these attacks" [from Twitter]

I see the point for OAuth third party applications, but that's not the attack vector here. That's just free association. What more secure authentication do people want? Client certificates? Dongles?

Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by gojomo on Monday January 05, 2009 @02:56PM (#420979)
Do you have a link on the help-desk-app angle?

One of my guesses would have been updates via SMS. I've read it's easy to forge caller ID; if it's as easy to forge an SMS origin-number, and you knew these accounts were set up to allow updates via SMS from a certain number... voila!

Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by cscott on Monday January 05, 2009 @03:35PM (#421062)
Here's the info on the compromised support tools:

http://blog.twitter.com/2009/01/monday-morning-madness.html

Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by biohacker42 on Monday January 05, 2009 @01:59PM (#420876)
Oh the tiny, tiny drama!
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by seldo on Monday January 05, 2009 @02:06PM (#420889)
Jokes aside, this is a huge deal for Twitter. Unless they can prove that these guys did something like get phished, their professed monetization strategy of corporate twitter accounts could run into real trouble.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by tlrobinson on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:04AM (#421662)
They weren't phished, Twitter's admin tools were hacked: http://blog.twitter.com/2009/01/monday-morning-madness.html

Ouch, not exactly confidence inspiring. It's also sort of ironic that one of the headlines under "Twitter is Del.icio.us" is "Governments use Twitter for Emergency Alerts, Traffic Notices and More - Government Technology"

Imagine the havoc that would ensue if a large number of people were following some government's emergency alerts on Twitter and someone were able to gain control. It would be pretty easy to incite panic.

Or if the attacker didn't like a politician, like Obama, he could post subtly offensive comments as the politician.

Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by biohacker42 on Monday January 05, 2009 @03:28PM (#421045)
Corporate for pay twittering does not immediately strike me as a profitable business, is it just me?
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by palish on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @06:22AM (#421832)
Neither did online search in 1999.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by mtw on Monday January 05, 2009 @03:05PM (#420995)
it strikes me that twitter has acute technology problems. Remember the scalability problems last year? now this security issue. Friendfeed in contrast, has none of these issues.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by johns on Monday January 05, 2009 @03:32PM (#421056)
FriendFeed has none of the issues and does not have the critical mass to draw the sort of high-profile attention the defacers were seeking. Given enough scale, FriendFeed will have its share of issues.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by biohacker42 on Monday January 05, 2009 @04:49PM (#421191)
I can believe the "True geometric growth is hard to deal with period." argument when it comes to downtime.

But what does scale have to do with security?

Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by wmf on Monday January 05, 2009 @04:57PM (#421199)
More users -> more attackers -> more holes found.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by Herring on Monday January 05, 2009 @06:33PM (#421320)
Attackers can only find holes that are there to begin with.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by wmf on Monday January 05, 2009 @07:06PM (#421359)
There are always holes.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by Herring on Monday January 05, 2009 @07:51PM (#421403)
Some architectures are more resistant than others. I suppose you could break into some air gapped military computers -- if you had a nuke.

why are we even discussing this?

Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by sanswork on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @01:27AM (#421682)
Or someone on your payroll on the inside.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by Herring on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @09:06AM (#421919)
Well that's universal. You can't exactly protect against someone who's also supposed to hold the keys to the system. Its more a feature than a bug.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by alaskamiller on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @04:13AM (#421777)
It's like saying Macs don't have a virus problem.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by martythemaniak on Monday January 05, 2009 @07:14PM (#421365)
For posterity's sake, it should be noted that the Gelgamek vagina is typically 3 feet wide, not 4 feet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_South_Park_sp...

Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by wesley on Monday January 05, 2009 @01:58PM (#420873)
This might finally push twitter to use something like oAuth. I predict they will launch it by next week and it will be required by every third party app.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by mtw on Monday January 05, 2009 @02:01PM (#420878)
explain to me how oAuth would have prevented this? there's no indication that the attack was using a third-party app
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by evgen on Monday January 05, 2009 @04:36PM (#421172)
It would not have prevented this, but by jumping on another tangentially-related bandwagon the Twitter folks probably figure that they can distract everyone from the real problem and get ahead of the curve on credentials and authentication for the third-party ecosystem that is starting to develop around twitter.
Re:Twitter Security Collapses; Obama, Fox and Britney Accoun... by maneesh on Tuesday January 06, 2009 @08:35AM (#421894)
you make it sound like an episode of 'The West Wing,' I think that they will spend more time trying to solve their actual security issues than trying to distract from the problem