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Re:New York Times Tech Workers Go on Strike by dartos on Monday November 04, 2024 @11:18AM (#42042976)
The 2nd quote is kind of funny, but the first one isn’t.

Tech generates more money than the Times. It makes sense that the employees should be paid to reflect that.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with high paid workers striking for even higher pay. It’s not like the suits don’t hoard bonuses for themselves.

Re:New York Times Tech Workers Go on Strike by reaperducer on Monday November 04, 2024 @11:28AM (#42043084)
Tech generates more money than the Times.

It's the journalists that create the content for the tech end. Without them, there would be no Times tech employees.

Re:New York Times Tech Workers Go on Strike by piltdownman on Monday November 04, 2024 @11:38AM (#42043223)
To reductio ad absurdum, without the advertisers there'd be no journalists.

The problem remains that with the advertisers, there cannot be journalism.

Little distinguishes much of american mass-media 'journalism' from a ChatGPT precis of a Press Release or Reuters/AP wire. What does is generally in the form of an Op-Ed, and is generally at the behest or bias of a billionaire or their lobbying proxy.

In 2024 this has gotten to the point where America's Largest Newspaper chain will not endorse a presidential candidate out of fear. That's 200+ separate publications.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/29/media/usa-today-gannett-n...

Both the advertisers and the journalists rely on the Tech Employees as their core dependency for distribution and scaling factor, and are weighted in compensation accordingly. Much as it ever was - the people selling adspace and doing the logistics of distribution always made more than the people writing copy or typesetting.

Re:New York Times Tech Workers Go on Strike by carlosjobim on Monday November 04, 2024 @12:06PM (#42043613)
> Little distinguishes much of american mass-media 'journalism' from a ChatGPT precis of a Press Release or Reuters/AP wire.

The Reuters/AP wire is journalism.

Re:New York Times Tech Workers Go on Strike by jkestner on Monday November 04, 2024 @11:45AM (#42043327)
They're all in it together. The journalists should strike for everything they want as well!
Re:New York Times Tech Workers Go on Strike by dartos on Monday November 04, 2024 @12:13PM (#42043685)
I meeean… if they have the negotiating power then they should.
Re:New York Times Tech Workers Go on Strike by shagie on Monday November 04, 2024 @02:50PM (#42045389)
https://www.threads.net/@astor.maggie/post/DB82iPoxKMC

> Some background: The Tech Guild represents hundreds of software engineers, product designers, data analysts and others who make and run our website, apps, games and publishing systems. It’s a sister to my union, the NYT Guild, which reps the newsroom (and advertising, security & more!).

> The NYT Guild contract contains a no-strike clause. That means we in the newsroom are legally forbidden to go on strike with Tech. So we will be supporting them in other ways, some of which you can also do.

Re:New York Times Tech Workers Go on Strike by loeg on Monday November 04, 2024 @11:47AM (#42043354)
Something like half of NYT subscribers are only there for the games (tech side).
Re:New York Times Tech Workers Go on Strike by wiseowise on Monday November 04, 2024 @05:12PM (#42046539)
Without office and cleaners there would be no Times.