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Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by dewey on Thursday October 24, 2024 @02:18PM (#41938088)
Looks like they are really writing everything in Swift on the server side.

Repo: https://github.com/apple/security-pcc

Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by tessela on Thursday October 24, 2024 @03:36PM (#41938940)
I hope this helps people to consider Swift 6 as a viable option for server-side development, since it offers many of the modern safety features of Rust, including simpler memory management through ARC, compared to Rust’s more complex ownership system and more predictable than Go's garbage collector.
Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by willtemperley on Friday October 25, 2024 @03:55AM (#41943180)
I'd love to use Swift on Cloudflare Workers, but SwiftWASM doesn't seem production ready whereas Rust just works (mostly) on workers. Swift on AWS Lambda looks promising though.
Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by pjmlp on Sunday October 27, 2024 @02:24PM (#41964514)
There are lots of sane alternatives to Go. Also don't bet on ARC for performance.

https://github.com/ixy-languages/ixy-languages

Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by danielhep on Thursday October 24, 2024 @05:03PM (#41939749)
Is using something other than XCode viable? I'd love to do more with swift but I hate that IDE.
Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by russelg on Thursday October 24, 2024 @08:07PM (#41941066)
If you're a Jetbrains user, they have their AppCode IDE.
Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by ceejayoz on Thursday October 24, 2024 @08:43PM (#41941253)
That was discontinued in 2022.
Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by dewey on Thursday October 24, 2024 @05:41PM (#41940119)
Most editors will do, Xcode is mostly needed for iOS / macOS development if you want to submit to the App Store or work with a lot of Apple frameworks.
Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by iforgotmysocks on Thursday October 24, 2024 @05:56PM (#41940256)
There is a Swift LSP. See - https://github.com/swiftlang/sourcekit-lsp
Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by selectodude on Thursday October 24, 2024 @05:31PM (#41940028)
Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by willtemperley on Friday October 25, 2024 @03:15AM (#41942967)
Have you used it recently, on an M series Mac? I used to feel the same, it was sluggish and crashed frequently. It's become usable now, even pleasant to use. Also it's great they support Vim keybindings now out-of-the-box.
Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by miki123211 on Friday October 25, 2024 @02:37AM (#41942787)
It's worth keeping in mind that these AI machines run an environment very similar to Mac OS, XNU kernel and all, and are powered by Apple Silicon. Using Swift in that context makes sense.

At least according to what we publicly know, no other backend Apple services follow this model.

Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by valleyjo on Friday October 25, 2024 @09:45AM (#41945220)
What do we know about apples other backend services? I’ve worked in compute infra in big tech for 8 years and I don’t know anything about apple’s backend.
Re:Security research on Private Cloud Compute by withzombies on Friday October 25, 2024 @01:26PM (#41947427)
Apple has a lot of Java WebObjects running on old Unix servers