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Re:How the Unchecked Power of Companies Is Destabilizing Gov... by bugglebeetle on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @11:35PM (#41921545)
> I just listened to an R and D both wildly misconstrue the abortion issue as if one side wanted to murder children and the other wanted to control women’s bodies.

Only one side of this is, in fact, being misconstrued, as is evident by the recent deaths of women in states with abortion bans:

https://www.propublica.org/article/georgia-abortion-ban-ambe...

False balance is its own form of fallacious thinking.

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Re:How the Unchecked Power of Companies Is Destabilizing Gov... by throwaway59148 on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @11:58PM (#41921670)
I don't want to get too far afield here, but just in the interest of the parent point about assuming good faith, please take a look at this article if you have time: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2023/05/dr-warr...

"Up until around 32 weeks," and not all with medical diagnoses. And this is under current law. Can you say that everyone should be completely comfortable with this?

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Re:How the Unchecked Power of Companies Is Destabilizing Gov... by FireBeyond on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @12:36AM (#41921864)
From the OP:

> and the other wanted to control women’s bodies

and you:

> Can you say that everyone should be completely comfortable with this?

So... control of women's bodies, as claimed in the OP? Why is it necessary for you to be comfortable?

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Re:How the Unchecked Power of Companies Is Destabilizing Gov... by omnimus on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @04:15AM (#41922938)
Looking from outside of US its quite confusing how society of the free the country of libertarians… even makes this debatable. Its quite literally commanding someone what they can or cannot do about their body.
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Re:How the Unchecked Power of Companies Is Destabilizing Gov... by tijl on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @05:17AM (#41923291)
Looking at this from outside the US, it is quite bizarre to see how 2 extreme positions dominate the abortion debate there. Ultimately, the question is at which point the embryo should be considered a human being, who's life deserves some form of legal protection. One extreme position is that there should be no legal protection at all until birth. The other extreme would be granting full legal protection from conception. Both positions are fringe positions in Western Europe. The way the debate is radicalized in the US as a mater of fundamental human rights, feels like it leaves little space for the kind of compromise that most Europeans would accept as the only sensible position.
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Re:How the Unchecked Power of Companies Is Destabilizing Gov... by magnetowasright on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @06:48AM (#41923702)
People who are not comfortable with it should simply not seek this particular care for themselves.
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Re:How the Unchecked Power of Companies Is Destabilizing Gov... by Hnrobert42 on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @11:48PM (#41921618)
The consequences are not necessarily the motivations.
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Re:How the Unchecked Power of Companies Is Destabilizing Gov... by Jerrrrrrry on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @11:45PM (#41921609)
Q.E.D.

Abortion is the ultimate debate; with no clear answer from any biological, moral, legal, ethical, philosophical, or even religious clause, and science leaning the "wrong" direction depending on social "norms".

Social norms are friction against the ability to be honest with peers - that are nearly all going to be incentived to lie about their actual opinion, and project the opposite (but vote the way they are told anyway)

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