Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by bigs on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @08:22PM (#41920186)

Try as I might, ChatGPT couldn’t give me working code for a simple admin dash layout in Vue with a sidebar than can minimise. I had to correct it, it would say my apologies and provide new code with a different error. About 10 times in a row it got in a loop of errors and I gave up.

Do any of these actually help coding?

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Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by simonw on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @08:43PM (#41920362)

Give it one or two examples of what you want. Don't expect these things to perfectly solve every problem - they're transformation machines, so they can do pretty much anything if you figure out the right input.

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Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by ipaddr on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @08:35PM (#41920293)

Just tried it and it worked. Try this:

give me a vue js page. I want a sidebar that minimizes (if triggered). Make simple admin placeholder page.

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Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by bigs on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @10:20PM (#41921113)

This was about 6 months ago I think. I’ll happily give it another shot.

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Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by cryptoz on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @08:34PM (#41920290)

Prompting is a skill you can develop with practice and get better at. Also, some tasks just aren’t going to work well for various reasons.

Yes, LLMs can actually help with coding. But it’s not magic. There are limits. And you get better with practice.

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Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by brigandish on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @08:44PM (#41920371)

Without people providing their prompts, it's impossible to say whether they are skilled or not, and their complaints or claims of "it worked with this prompt" without the output are also not possible to validate.

Maybe there's a clue in there as to why these experiences seem so different. I'm glad GPTs don't get frustrated.

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Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by simonw on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @10:24PM (#41921141)

I have a personal policy of sharing my prompts as openly as possible. I've shared hundreds at this point - for a bunch of recent examples see https://simonwillison.net/2024/Oct/21/claude-artifacts/ and https://simonwillison.net/tags/ai-assisted-programming/

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Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by cheevly on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @10:14PM (#41921080)

Ive spent thousands of hours, literally, learning the ropes, and continue to hone it. There is a much higher skill ceiling for prompting than there was for Google-fu.

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Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by mraza007 on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @10:34PM (#41921188)

Back in the day googling was a skill not with the Rise of LLMs Prompting is a skill

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Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by HPsquared on Sunday October 27, 2024 @06:50PM (#41966338)

Literally ropes as in RoPE, rotary positional embeddings?

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