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Re:Abortions Have Increased, Even for Women in States with R... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @06:48PM (#41919507)
Abortion bans don’t stop abortions. They simply disincentivize safe, sanctioned abortions, and increase travel distances for those seeking reproductive healthcare. This is lost on certain voter cohorts and policymakers.
Re:Abortions Have Increased, Even for Women in States with R... by pfannkuchen on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @08:19PM (#41920163)
I’m not sure if conservatives think through things this far, but generally the availability and acceptance of get out of jail free cards must influence behavior. Behavior shifted as a result of these cards becoming available, and I imagine some people would like to shift behavior back to how it used to be. A shift back could take awhile, just as the shift here did.

I say this as somebody who is pro abortion rights, I just like to understand the opposing viewpoint.

Re:Abortions Have Increased, Even for Women in States with R... by Spooky23 on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @08:26PM (#41920225)
Effectiveness isn’t in the interest of the politicans.

If you finally eliminate abortion, what do you pander to these mega church folks and Catholics with? You need to always have a problem that you can “help” with.

Re:Abortions Have Increased, Even for Women in States with R... by krapp on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @06:47AM (#41923696)
>If you finally eliminate abortion, what do you pander to these mega church folks and Catholics with?

Their end goal is a total Christian theocracy, a society purged of idolatry, secularism and heresy, and eventually ushering in the Second Coming, which many of them believe will require alliance with Israel in a nuclear war against Islam. The world is still full of "demons" for them to fear.

Re:Abortions Have Increased, Even for Women in States with R... by Spooky23 on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @12:06PM (#41926419)
That’s the Christian fundamentalist end goal. The standard fascist conservative types just need to pander to them for their gotv.
Re:Abortions Have Increased, Even for Women in States with R... by krapp on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @07:44PM (#41930378)
American fascism is inseparable from Christian fundamentalism and Zionism.