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Re:First Images from Euclid Are In by kjkjadksj on Monday October 21, 2024 @10:41PM (#41910686)
That’s hardly proof considering these examples all share a common ancestor. I ask you, can you communicate with a slime mold? Even the slime mold is more similar to ourselves than any potential life we’d find elsewhere, as we share a common ancestor.
Re:First Images from Euclid Are In by colordrops on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @12:18AM (#41911149)
What's so important about "sharing a common ancestor"? It doesn't say anything about the spread of different types of life that could evolve, considering we have a sample size of one, and it also says nothing about how difficult it is for any particular form to evolve intelligence.
Re:First Images from Euclid Are In by m3kw9 on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @09:08AM (#41913856)
Knowing physics is roughly same every where in the universe, same rules of biology will apply elsewhere where if conditions meet, maybe earth is one of many conditions that can form life.
Re:First Images from Euclid Are In by kjkjadksj on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @12:49PM (#41916167)
Within those rules are a lot of things that can get by under them. Take two points in earths history bound by the same physical laws and life can look dramatically different. You can think of it like how we all use the same microsoft word but that doesn’t lead to the same exact book being written independently twice or more often. The amount of permutations to be taken along the way is a countless number probably far larger than the number of habitable star systems in the universe.
Re:First Images from Euclid Are In by colordrops on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @01:58PM (#41916886)
There's no reason to believe that because the physics are the same the biology will be the same. that's a big ungrounded assumption.
Re:First Images from Euclid Are In by kjkjadksj on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @12:19PM (#41915869)
Because there are probably an uncountable number of different turns life could have made instead to lead to dramatically different outcomes. Life iterates on itself. Mutations on top of mutations. Mitochondria could have just as easily never been enveloped by our eukaryotic ancestors and life would look a hell of a lot different today.
Re:First Images from Euclid Are In by colordrops on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @01:57PM (#41916883)
Having a high cardinality of permutations doesn't say anything one way or another about the probability of life arising. it's just hand waving.
Re:First Images from Euclid Are In by kjkjadksj on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @12:30PM (#41926656)
I’m not arguing about life merely arising. I’m arguing about the unlikelihood of our idea of intelligence.
Re:First Images from Euclid Are In by colordrops on Thursday October 24, 2024 @12:13AM (#41931835)
"merely" arising. As if it were a simple process itself. Couldn't your argument be applied to either?