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Re:Rebooting the Arsenal of Democracy by roenxi on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @05:10PM (#41863890)
> NATO decided it would not yet offer membership to Georgia and Ukraine; nevertheless, NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said that Georgia and Ukraine would eventually become members

~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine-NATO_relations#Buchare...

Former NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer seems to disagree with that assessment, there were plans. That was around the time that Russia started activating their military as it became clear that NATO leadership could not be reasoned with. And that was even before the 2014 coup that coincidentally set up a pro-NATO government.

Re:Rebooting the Arsenal of Democracy by mopsi on Thursday October 17, 2024 @09:18PM (#41875520)
> Former NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer seems to disagree with that assessment, there were plans.

There were none, this "eventually" was an empty consolation without any timeframe, and was widely criticized as such at the time. No gear, no integration - and no desire to move in that direction.

> And that was even before the 2014 coup that coincidentally set up a pro-NATO government.

There was no coup in Ukraine. Ukraine became very interested in the military alliance after Russia invaded them.