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Re:Redbox left PII on decommissioned machines by michaelt on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @03:44AM (#41856579)
> I've seen a lot of stuff in e-waste. [...] if you have a quiet word with the attendant you can usually walk off with stuff that someone else dropped off.

In my country, there are specialist e-waste disposal companies large IT organisations can hire, which guarantee to remove and shred the hard drives before recycling the rest.

Re:Redbox left PII on decommissioned machines by Crosseye_Jack on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @04:00AM (#41856682)
>> And they won't pay someone else to do it because it's too expensive.

Its not that such entities that will correctly handle the e-waste don't exist, its that the company doesn't want to pay to have it donem esp when storage is cheap, let those containers of old laptops and towers be someone else's (budgetary) problem.

Re:Redbox left PII on decommissioned machines by theshrike79 on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @03:54AM (#41856650)
"they won't pay someone else to do it because it's too expensive"

This is the relevant bit. It's cheaper just to pile the old computers in storage vs doing something about it.

Re:Redbox left PII on decommissioned machines by BlueTemplar on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @07:04AM (#41857720)
I don't think that the people responsible for dealing with the mess left from bankruptcy are large IT organizations, they probably barely have the money to transport the waste to the nearest trash dump, unsorted, and forget about "recycling" now that poor countries are less willing to take the e-waste.

Companies leaving their waste as someone else's problem to deal with is a common occurrence (heck, even before they go bankrupt), and in many cases they would never have existed in the first place if they had to pay for all of it, for instance :

https://www.desmog.com/2019/12/20/fracking-oil-gas-bankruptc...

(Note also that there are funds set aside for cleanup, but they are typically woefully insufficient.)

How to prevent companies that are a net negative for society from existing remains an unsolved problem.

(Aside of course from disallowing companies altogether, I wonder when is the point that the limited liability company as a concept is a net negative to society ? Could it be in the past already ? Of course comes the question of whether any alternative can have a positive contribution, in a context of overshoot...)

Re:Redbox left PII on decommissioned machines by adolph on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @02:05PM (#41861897)
> guarantee to remove and shred the hard drives

Now that storage is often an indistinct chip on the motherboard, I wonder how that works.

Re:Redbox left PII on decommissioned machines by bombcar on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @05:43PM (#41864141)
About as well as it always did, which was some variation between “they shredded it whilst I watched” and “they probably wiped it before letting someone take it home” to “it shows up on eBay in three days untouched.”