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Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by robertlagrant on Monday October 14, 2024 @11:35AM (#41838501)
I'm a bit dumbfounded by the price tag of $189. Am I wrong?
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by puzzlingcaptcha on Monday October 14, 2024 @11:45AM (#41838602)
Seems like quite a bit of hardware engineering went into the design.

But if you are hacker and don't care too much about the aesthetics you could probably get 90% of the functionality with an ESP32, a GPIO extender, an LED array, an OLED display and a 3D printed case for like $30.

Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by zeroflow on Monday October 14, 2024 @11:53AM (#41838689)
A few years ago, I built a simpler version of that device myself.

As you said: A 90% solution is easy to hack together. I had mine displaying Skype for Business status so my colleagues would know if I was in a call or just listening to music.

The harder part or much rather the time consuming part is getting a good status message from the installed apps. It looks like there is plenty of software and APIs available.

Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by tecleandor on Monday October 14, 2024 @11:50AM (#41838657)
The Ulanzi TC001 devices are kind of near (without the double screen and all the buttons and stuff) for around $50. IIRC they have an ESP32 and have at least 1 or 2 alternative opensource firmwares.
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by whitehexagon on Monday October 14, 2024 @12:08PM (#41838871)
or maybe a repurposed eWaste phone/tablet, or at this price probably a new phone.
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by echoangle on Monday October 14, 2024 @12:25PM (#41839036)
Can confirm, here’s a small BOM:

8x 8x8 WS2812 Matrix $2 each = $16

ESP32 $3

1x some acrylic to laser-cut a case in a makerspace $5

So $24 total. The screen would be much larger than the Busy Bar version, which could be a pro or a con, depending on what you want.

If you need the smaller back screen (I don’t see the use because I would control it from a computer anyways), that would add another $3 or so. The buttons are basically free but if we assume $3, that’s $30 like you said in total.

Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by shadowpho on Monday October 14, 2024 @03:22PM (#41840924)
no, that's not how much that costs at all lol
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by echoangle on Monday October 14, 2024 @03:54PM (#41841232)
Ever been on Aliexpress? I was roughly converting prices from € to $ and adding some spare for tolerance, here’s what I actually paid:

LED Matrix: 5 for 6,33€ (that is 1,27€ each)

ESP32 C3 Supermini: 3 for 3,56€ (1,19€ each)

There’s scrap acrylic at my makerspace so I was guessing, make it 10€ and I’m at 23€ or so.

What numbers do you not believe?

Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by shadowpho on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @06:27PM (#41853779)
Who’s doing the case? Who’s doing the buttons? Who’s gonna put it together? Testing? Programming? Flashing? How about handling returns? Packaging? Design for all of the above?
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by echoangle on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @01:33AM (#41855920)
Well that’s the point of a DIY project, you are going to do it (if that’s the kind of project you want). I wasn’t saying you should build this thing yourself because the busy bar is bad, I was just giving some more data to the original commenter who said you can build something similar yourself for much cheaper.
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by t-3 on Monday October 14, 2024 @11:53AM (#41838694)
It is a bit pricey, but probably not overpriced. This kind of niche product is not going to get good economies of scale, those custom molded plastic parts are going to get pretty expensive when not being produced by the million.
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by Filligree on Monday October 14, 2024 @12:01PM (#41838784)
They do if you insist on molding them, but for small runs 3D printing ought to provide a baseline maximum cost.
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by madeofpalk on Monday October 14, 2024 @12:08PM (#41838868)
This seems like exactly the price I thought it would be. Maybe a bit cheaper to be honest.

Those generic "led pixel clock" tend to be about $50-$80 ish, and this looks like a 'nicer' (in some aspects) fancier, more niche version of that.

Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by enraged_camel on Monday October 14, 2024 @11:55AM (#41838715)
Maybe I’m not the target audience but I wouldn’t pay more than $20 for something like this, because I don’t have a burning need for it.
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by mplewis on Monday October 14, 2024 @11:59AM (#41838762)
How much do you think it should cost?
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by foz on Monday October 14, 2024 @12:09PM (#41838881)
This seems like an item that business would buy in bulk. $180 for single dev version, $90 each in packs of 10. Customized with your company branding maybe.
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by Justin_K on Monday October 14, 2024 @01:00PM (#41839435)
Go build your own for cheaper and see if you can make a living.
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by mannyv on Monday October 14, 2024 @01:02PM (#41839450)
My guess was $150. Producing things costs a surprisingly large amount of money because moqs.
Re:Busy Status Bar from Flipper Devices by gffrd on Monday October 14, 2024 @02:15PM (#41840257)
Price is high … but the right price is the price people are willing to pay.

… and people will pay a lot for anything that tickles their idea of self-identity, allows them to project an image they find favorable, but taps in to some core utility that allows you to provide cover for the prior. See: Apple devices, fitness, business conferences, this device.