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Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Saturday October 12, 2024 @01:51PM (#41820980)
I simply don't use either. never have, never will. they do not serve my purpose, so they are irrelevant to my life.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by ruthmarx on Saturday October 12, 2024 @04:00PM (#41822007)
You've definitely used Twitter, even if just to see an announcement or something. Too much important information has been posted there over the last decade for anyone online a lot to have been able to avoid it.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Saturday October 12, 2024 @04:17PM (#41822161)
I've seen screenshots of Elon acting like a loser, that's about it.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by ruthmarx on Saturday October 12, 2024 @05:18PM (#41822712)
So you've never clicked on Twitter links, even when they have been submitted to HN?
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Sunday October 13, 2024 @01:46AM (#41825497)
I've clicked them by accident, does that count as using? I also "use" adverts then.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by ruthmarx on Sunday October 13, 2024 @12:06PM (#41829135)
You've only clicked them by accident? No that doesn't count as using, it's just hard to believe.

It's like the people who have worked in IT for 20 years but 'never used Windows'.

Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Sunday October 13, 2024 @12:19PM (#41829235)
I only use windows as a dumb terminal to access my Linux system remotely. I'd require a significant payrise to consider using windows as a daily driver.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by ruthmarx on Sunday October 13, 2024 @09:26PM (#41833322)
Not talking about using it as a daily driver, just contrasting your claim that you have never used twitter with the people who claim to have never used windows over a 20 year period of working or hobbying in IT.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Monday October 14, 2024 @12:18PM (#41838981)
I have definitely not used Windows for a hobby for 19 years. Linux (and for a short time OS X) fill my needs.

I simply have no use for twitter. if the information is important, it'll turn up on bbc.co.uk, otherwise it's not really worth the effort.

Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by ruthmarx on Monday October 14, 2024 @12:52PM (#41839329)
> I have definitely not used Windows for a hobby for 19 years

I never said you did. In fact, I never said anything about you using Windows at all, yet twice now you seem to have taken what I wrote as though I did.

Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Monday October 14, 2024 @02:31PM (#41840423)
I did not take it as you saying that I did, both times I was trying to make the point that those people that you don't believe exist include me as one of them.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by ruthmarx on Monday October 14, 2024 @03:06PM (#41840764)
Fair enough. I guess I'm just incredibly skeptical of your claims. Certainly I can get you've never used Windows as your primary OS, but that's quite a different claim from never having used it, which is the specific claim I was saying some people make. And it strains incredulity to believe you've never clicked on any Twitter links because of how prevalent the platform is.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Monday October 14, 2024 @05:15PM (#41842107)
oh I did use windows as my primary OS, it was Windows 95/98/XP on desktops, which started my hatred of it, and then I was stuck on a very poor laptop and windows mistake edition for 3 months before I switched to Linux for good.

yes, I've clicked on Twitter links the same way I've clicked on ads, by accident.

Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by ruthmarx on Monday October 14, 2024 @06:41PM (#41842943)
> oh I did use windows as my primary OS, it was Windows 95/98/XP on desktops,

So you're definitely not in the amp of people who never claimed to use Windows, which is the group I was comparing you to.

> Yes, I've clicked on Twitter links the same way I've clicked on ads, by accident.

That's what I'm skeptical of. Twitter sucks, but sometimes it's literally the only place the source of a story is, like if Elon makes a newesworthy post or something. I'm not saying you had an account or anything, but literally never clicking on a link, hundreds of which have been submitted as HN stories alone, beggars belief.

Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @02:55AM (#41845693)
> like if Elon makes a newesworthy post or something

hahahaha! thank you! starting my day with a belly laugh is a great privilege!

but seriously, just because most of the tech bros admire him, doesn't mean I need to hear every idiocy that comes out of his deranged mind.

even when it's something truly interesting - I watched the space x double landing on YouTube a few hours after it happened several years ago - I don't need to be informed of every single thing the instant it happens.

Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by ruthmarx on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @12:01PM (#41849962)
> hahahaha! thank you! starting my day with a belly laugh is a great privilege!

That's a really weird reaction. Like, yeah, he's a clown, but he has still made tweets that get discussed in thew news and here on HN.

> doesn't mean I need to hear every idiocy that comes out of his deranged mind.

Elon was just one example. Plenty of other tech people, hackers, politicians etc post important stuff on twitter. I mean, juts search HN for submissions with twitter or x.com as the domain. There is no shortage of submissions, and it beggars belief you have never clicked on one.

Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @01:18PM (#41850778)
$x has released llm $y: I google for the gguf.

$x has achieved $y. well good for them.

I really don't understand the obsession with the idea that I must somehow be interested in something just because somebody else said it. I've been offered free newspapers before - I told them thanks, but I don't have a cat.

Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by ruthmarx on Friday October 18, 2024 @12:23AM (#41876318)
> I really don't understand the obsession with the idea that I must somehow be interested in something just because somebody else said it. I

That's not the point I'm making. The point I'm making is Twitter has been too ubiquitous and important for you to have never clicked a submission at this site or a link to it somewhere, and not just accidentally.

Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by jtbayly on Saturday October 12, 2024 @01:59PM (#41821035)
Then it is important for you to recognize that you are a unicorn.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by dullcrisp on Saturday October 12, 2024 @02:04PM (#41821072)
I think that’s only the case if you only meet people through TikTok and Twitter
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by oblio on Saturday October 12, 2024 @02:09PM (#41821109)
Your comment is totally irrelevant to the conversation regarding schools, though. Smartphones are massively corroding kids' brains these days, and YES, this is much worse than TV or video games back in the day.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by wkat4242 on Saturday October 12, 2024 @02:29PM (#41821271)
That's not a fact, it's a point being debated.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Sunday October 13, 2024 @10:06AM (#41828126)
Even before that, it was books! instead of quietly contemplating the lord, they were getting blasphemous ideas all day long!
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Sunday October 13, 2024 @08:55AM (#41827624)
my friends do say "you're so special".
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by Apocryphon on Saturday October 12, 2024 @02:11PM (#41821118)
And yet, you’re still on here posting along with the rest of us.
Re:The phone ban has had a big impact on school work by exe34 on Sunday October 13, 2024 @01:47AM (#41825501)
says a lot about the company I keep, doesn't it.