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Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel by ViewTrick1002 on Monday October 07, 2024 @02:30PM (#41769298)
We don't need to replace primary energy with electric energy in a 1:1 ratio.

An ICE car is 20-30% efficient, an EV is 90% efficient. Generally we are looking at a grid expansion, but it is not massive.

See this amazing chart on rejected vs. useful energy:

https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/

Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel by WalterBright on Monday October 07, 2024 @10:41PM (#41773356)
> an EV is 90% efficient

An EV is 85-90% efficient with power coming out of the batteries. However, the charging efficiency of the batteries is at about 80%. So the overall efficiency is 80% of 90%, or 72%.

Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel by heavenlyblue on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @07:18AM (#41776081)
For the sake of replacement, we should not include the charging efficiency, because the context is that of "how kuch energy the car can store" rather than "where it comes from"
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel by Scarblac on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @11:59AM (#41778823)
It's "how much is needed to keep doing the same thing", I don't see why charging would be excluded.
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel by WalterBright on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @01:02PM (#41779426)
It is not about how much it can store. You cannot wish away the charging losses. There are no losses to pumping gas into a tank. Nor can you wish away the losses in the charger itself. Converting AC to DC is hardly 100% efficient.
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel by pfdietz on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @04:21PM (#41781468)
In that case, you should also not wish away refining losses, where petroleum is turned into gasoline and other fuels.
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel by WalterBright on Wednesday October 09, 2024 @01:44PM (#41790625)
If you want to get an accurate accounting of CO2 emissions, sure.