Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel
by Scarblac on Monday October 07, 2024 @02:05PM
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61.5% sounds like a lot, but how much electricity is needed to replace everything that fossil fuel is now used for? I think it needs to increase to 400% or so to do that.
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Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel
by ViewTrick1002 on Monday October 07, 2024 @02:30PM
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We don't need to replace primary energy with electric energy in a 1:1 ratio.
An ICE car is 20-30% efficient, an EV is 90% efficient. Generally we are looking at a grid expansion, but it is not massive.
See this amazing chart on rejected vs. useful energy:
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel
by WalterBright on Monday October 07, 2024 @10:41PM
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> an EV is 90% efficient
An EV is 85-90% efficient with power coming out of the batteries. However, the charging efficiency of the batteries is at about 80%. So the overall efficiency is 80% of 90%, or 72%.
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel
by heavenlyblue on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @07:18AM
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For the sake of replacement, we should not include the charging efficiency, because the context is that of "how kuch energy the car can store" rather than "where it comes from"
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel
by Scarblac on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @11:59AM
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It's "how much is needed to keep doing the same thing", I don't see why charging would be excluded.
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel
by WalterBright on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @01:02PM
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It is not about how much it can store. You cannot wish away the charging losses. There are no losses to pumping gas into a tank. Nor can you wish away the losses in the charger itself. Converting AC to DC is hardly 100% efficient.
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel
by pfdietz on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @04:21PM
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In that case, you should also not wish away refining losses, where petroleum is turned into gasoline and other fuels.
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel
by WalterBright on Wednesday October 09, 2024 @01:44PM
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If you want to get an accurate accounting of CO2 emissions, sure.
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel
by _ph_ on Monday October 07, 2024 @08:58PM
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Somewhere between 2-3x the electricity consumed right now (which is way down from the peak several years ago as efficiency increases, e.g. LEDs instead of light bulbs etc.). It would be crazy expensive to build nuclear reactors to produce so much electricity, with renewables it is still quite a task, but a much more manageable one.
Re:Fukushima Reactor: TEPCO robot aims to extract nuclear fuel
by Moldoteck on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @04:29AM
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in fact for germany building a similar renewable output will be much more expensive. Don't forget about transmission and balancing. Needless to say Germany doesn't have an actual plan to ditch gas, even h2-ready plants will either use a mix with gas(most probably) or pure h2(if it'll even be deployed) will still have huge NOx emissions