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Re:Filed: WP Engine Inc. v Automattic Inc. and Matthew Charl... by csa on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @09:18PM (#41726438)
> Sadly, instead of supporting open source with $5 million, they each will spend 10 million on lawyers.

I think both sides more or less see this as a case of standing up against a bully — they may lose out in the short run (in terms of money), but they think that they will discourage future bullying by fighting back.

I’m not sure if either side is right, but that’s why they both drew a line in the sand, imho.

Re:Filed: WP Engine Inc. v Automattic Inc. and Matthew Charl... by dmix on Thursday October 03, 2024 @12:02AM (#41727272)
Ignoring the executive drama (on both sides) it is in bad taste to build WPEngine off an Open Source project and barely contribute back to it.

It's probably a case where their version is so heavily customized they don't spend much time on the fundamentals. But still. I wonder if that had a petty rationale as well. Relationships are important in business.

Re:Filed: WP Engine Inc. v Automattic Inc. and Matthew Charl... by initplus on Thursday October 03, 2024 @01:22AM (#41727578)
Harder to justify contributing back when the open source project is so tightly coupled to your biggest for profit competitor.
Re:Filed: WP Engine Inc. v Automattic Inc. and Matthew Charl... by busterarm on Thursday October 03, 2024 @01:44AM (#41727673)
It's so funny seeing on this board how much people hop up and down screaming about big cloud providers are stealing from open source creators and how we should switch to non-open licenses that prevent companies from profiting from other companies' open source projects...

...and then exactly when a company is profiting from someone's open source project and that person is crying foul, the whole board is piling on the creator of that project primarily because they don't like _his tone_.

Bunch of hypocrites.

Re:Filed: WP Engine Inc. v Automattic Inc. and Matthew Charl... by onli on Thursday October 03, 2024 @04:43AM (#41728616)
HN isn't one person. There was always a lot of criticism of those closed source licenses. See for example the thread when Redis fell, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39772562
Re:Filed: WP Engine Inc. v Automattic Inc. and Matthew Charl... by immibis on Thursday October 03, 2024 @05:37AM (#41728956)
WPEngine contributed a lot to WordPress. It was, in fact, one of the biggest sponsors of the conference it was just banned from participating in. It also wrote the most popular plugin.

When Matt says "contribute" he means monetarily. Probably (speculation) because his company is about to be bankrupt without finding a way to get more money.

Re:Filed: WP Engine Inc. v Automattic Inc. and Matthew Charl... by echelon on Thursday October 03, 2024 @06:13AM (#41729144)
Matt shouldn't have made his thing "open source" [1], just like Elastic and other vendors shouldn't have allowed Amazon to set up shop and steal their work.

Unrelated organizations coming in, soaking up all the profit, and not contributing back is horrible. "Open source" needs to be amended to prevent this.

Something like MAU, MRR, or market% seems like a healthy way to limit big time corporations from taking over.

[1] Hindsight is 20/20.

Re:Filed: WP Engine Inc. v Automattic Inc. and Matthew Charl... by Kye on Thursday October 03, 2024 @08:57AM (#41730358)
He had no choice. It was a fork of b2.