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Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by sanswork on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @05:13PM (#41725030)
dang has said on multiple occasions they don't and he has never given me any reason to doubt his integrity. Quite the opposite.
Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by NicoJuicy on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @06:26PM (#41725517)
There are a lot of HN folks here ( startups, ... )

Dang said they didn't do it and it's being flagged by users.

Which obviously makes sense of you think about it.

Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by freedomben on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @06:48PM (#41725648)
The flags on hn are extremely powerful, so I don't doubt this. Just a few flags obliterate a post with tons of upvotes. It wouldn't take many people to kill it, and it doesn't require a conspiracy
Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by sanswork on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @07:32PM (#41725919)
I will frequently flag posts that are rage bait or where the comments are just the same few people arguing. I haven't flagged this one because I commented in it but it's a very low value post.
Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by 11101010001100 on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @08:14PM (#41726138)
What makes it low value in your opinion? The story combines AI, YC, software licenses etc., which are generally of interest to the HN community.
Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by sanswork on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @10:03PM (#41726630)
It's gossip rage bait to feel the feelings of superiority in the writers community vs VC land. It doesn't dive into any of those things, if it did that could be valuable, it's just reporting events to drive feelings.
Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by dansiemens on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @07:21PM (#41725841)
“You don’t need a formal conspiracy when interests converge” - George Carlin
Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by lopkeny12ko on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @09:52PM (#41726571)
Is this supposed to assauge the concerns of the public? Is dang not employed by, and thus a representative of, Y Combinator? There is every reason to believe he is directly responsible for protecting the interests of the company.

"Company investigated Company and found that Company did nothing wrong"

Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by sanswork on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @10:10PM (#41726668)
I don't really care about your concerns. If you are willing to lie for an employer we are ethically distant. I've seen no indication dang is willing to do that either and seen him being very open about things he didn't need to be. Also the way ownership works isn't so simple anymore as HN is YC. More like YC is HNs major sponsor these days.
Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by lopkeny12ko on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @11:18PM (#41727046)
I would hardly consider "moderating a public forum in accordance with your employer-mandated job description guidelines" to be "lying."

"dang" is a detail--the point is, if someone is being cut a paycheck by a company, the public is well within reason to believe that person has a job obligation to favorably represent the interests of that company.

Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by dragonwriter on Thursday October 03, 2024 @12:03AM (#41727279)
> I would hardly consider "moderating a public forum in accordance with your employer-mandated job description guidelines" to be "lying."

Explicitly saying you don't do X while doing X is lying, whether or not you are getting a paycheck for it.

(And to be clear, I doubt dang is lying; there’s no need to resort to centralized moderation to explain the observed behavior.)

Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by sanswork on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @11:38PM (#41727161)
But dang has on multiple occasions said he doesn't do this so that would be not just lying up unnecessary lying.

Would anyone stop using HN if you knew they buried negative stories about YC? You're all still here so likely no.

Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by dang on Thursday October 03, 2024 @02:00PM (#41733137)
> There is every reason to believe he is directly responsible for protecting the interests of the company.

Yes, but the way we do it is different from the common assumption because we want to optimize HN's value for YC globally rather than overreacting to any particular story.

HN's value to YC consists of the community, and the community only exists because of goodwill and trust. To jeopardize that for the sake of suppressing a particular story (even if the article is false and/or sensational and/or shallow, silly or whatever) would be a super dumb tradeoff, so (as my son once said when he was little) "that what we not do".

I understand the skepticism, and of course you're free to disbelieve any part of what I say. All I can do is explain to people what we do and how we think about it, answer questions when asked, and hope that this is good enough to keep the bulk of the community happy.

Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by peoplefromibiza on Thursday October 03, 2024 @04:46AM (#41728634)
> and he has never given me any reason to doubt his integrity

in other news: man kills his family, neighbours swear they were a normal happy family, It's totally unexpected, we never would have thought something like this could happen

past behavior is a good predictor of future behavior if and only if nothing else changes.

not speaking about dang specifically, but IMO it's a bit different to not do something when it benefits your reputation and to not do anything when it can harm your job safety.

Re:The AI startup drama that's damaging Y Combinator's reput... by dang on Thursday October 03, 2024 @01:57PM (#41733103)
The rule is "we moderate less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is the story". In other words, we do moderate such stories, we just do less (significantly less) than we would if it were a different topic. I posted a longer explanation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41732846 and there are 10 years' worth of similar explanations here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....