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Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by lynx23 on Monday September 30, 2024 @01:47AM (#41693941)
Seriously, hardcore history? I dont even remember where I heard from him, but I think it was a Lex podcast. So I checked out hardcore history and was mightily disappointed. To my ears, he is rambling 3 hours about a topic, more or less unstructured and very long-winded, so that I basically remember nothing after having finished the podcast. I tried several times again, because I wanted it to be good. But no, not the format for me, and not a presentation I can actually absorb.
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Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by phreeza on Monday September 30, 2024 @02:20AM (#41694090)
Yea there are much better examples of quality history podcasts, that are non-rambling. E.g. Mike Duncan podcasts (Revolutions, History of Rome), or the Age of Napoleon podcast. But even those are really just very good digestions of various source materials, which seems like something where LLMs will eventually reach quite a good level.
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Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by OutOfHere on Monday September 30, 2024 @08:32AM (#41696416)
For such historical topics, my LLM-based software podgenai does a pretty good job imho. It is easier for it since it's all internal knowledge that it already knows about.
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Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by triceratops on Monday September 30, 2024 @09:32AM (#41696893)
It's interesting I have the exact opposite opinion. I'm sure Mike Duncan works very hard, and does a ton of research, and his skill is beyond anything I can do. But his podcasts ultimately sound like a list of bullet points being read off a Google Doc. There's no color, personality, or feeling. I might as well have a screen reader narrate a Wikipedia article to me. I can barely remember anything I heard by him.

Carlin on the other hand, despite the digressions and rambling, manages to keep you engaged and really feel the events.

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Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by Hammershaft on Monday September 30, 2024 @02:21AM (#41694094)
Hardcore History can certainly be off kilter, and the first eppy of any series tends to be a slog as he finds his groove. That said, Wrath of the Khans, Fall of the Republic, and the WW1 series do blossom into being incredible gripping series.
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Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by emsixteen on Monday September 30, 2024 @02:03AM (#41694013)
Don't worry, you're not alone. I can't remember what I didn't like about it, but I really wasn't a fan.

Thankfully there's plenty out there I am a fan of!

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Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by dr_dshiv on Monday September 30, 2024 @02:49AM (#41694236)
Try “fall of civilizations.” Best pod I know. Maybe Shwep.net
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Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by krzyk on Monday September 30, 2024 @06:18AM (#41695487)
Interesting stuff, but the music and the well, falls are quite depressing.
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Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by refurb on Monday September 30, 2024 @08:12AM (#41696277)
Yes! I’m a huge history buff (read hundreds of books) and was so excited when someone told me about Hardcore History.

I tried a few episodes. I really tried. I couldn’t do it. It reminded me of my uncle would tell a 5 min story in half an hour.

The dramatic filler, breathless story telling was too much for me. If anything it would put me to sleep.

I’ve found a few history podcasts that I think go into a lot more depth and I learn a lot more from.

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Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by speckx on Monday September 30, 2024 @10:39AM (#41697643)
I, too, found hardcore history a bit unstructured. If you like history, take a look at https://fallofcivilizationspodcast.com/.
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