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Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by jll29 on Sunday September 29, 2024 @07:43PM (#41691939)
I like reading (esp. Observer and Economist) and writing obituaries.

When I was working for Reuters, I saw how they have draft obituaries ready for all living celebrities, which have to be constantly updated -- until folks actually pass away. The purpose is to be able to post obituaries within seconds after a person's death.

At some point I designed an API for them to order people by the "update-worthiness" of their obitary drafts: using features like age, popularity, rate of change.

It is a healthy practice not to ignore/block out death but to make it part of one's life; society forgot that in recent decades (e.g. we no longer keep the departed at home for relatives to get used to the fact that they are no longer alive, but still be able to look at them when mourning).

Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by voisin on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @09:12AM (#41720238)
> e.g. we no longer keep the departed at home for relatives to get used to the fact that they are no longer alive, but still be able to look at them when mourning

What was this practice called? It sounds interesting.

Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by r_p4rk on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @09:18AM (#41720313)
In Ireland, they are called a wake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake_(ceremony)

Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by patrickwalton on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @09:23AM (#41720384)
That Wikipedia page says viewings are basically the same as a wake. Are viewings not common in the U.S? They're common in Utah.

When my dad died, before the viewing there was the period right after death where my siblings and I sat in the room with his body and talked until the mortuary picked him up.

Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by tbihl on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @09:33AM (#41720474)
My suspicion is that the proliferation of cremation has significantly reduced the incidence of wakes. That, and US American society has so much functional separation that most of us probably interact very little with the elderly, thus also not ending up at many funerals.
Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by prettyStandard on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @09:49AM (#41720647)
I'm from the Southeastern US. They seem pretty common here.
Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by voisin on Thursday October 03, 2024 @10:03AM (#41730917)
We have wakes and visitations in Canada too, but they are held at funeral homes for brief periods - not in the home of the deceased or a loved one. I think this might be the same as the Jewish ritual of “sitting shiva”?? But I am not sure.
Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by petercooper on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @10:13AM (#41720874)
One of my dad's oft-told stories is of having his grandmother "in the living room" overnight prior to her funeral. He didn't use a particular term for it but said he found it quite terrifying as a 4-5 year old at the time. (This would be in the 1950s in the UK.)
Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by tbihl on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @09:19AM (#41720332)
I couldn't quite follow the wording, but it sounded like open-casket visitation, but at home instead of a funeral home.
Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by voisin on Thursday October 03, 2024 @10:05AM (#41730931)
Yes I agree. Was this a common ritual anytime recently in North America? I have heard of it back in the 1800s but only ever heard of funeral homes for visitations anytime more recently.
Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by smitelli on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @09:21AM (#41720348)
Possibly “visitation” in the American south, unless I’m misremembering or misinterpreting the parent comment.
Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by voisin on Thursday October 03, 2024 @10:04AM (#41730923)
Are visitations held inside a private home? We have them in Canada but they are invariably (in my experience) held in a funeral home.
Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by satori99 on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @10:20AM (#41720942)
> draft obituaries ready for all living celebrities, which have to be constantly updated

I was responsible for doing this for a news radio network 30 years ago. Mostly I was able to stay on top of things, but Princess Diana really ruined my weekend. No-one was ready for that one.

Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by MSM on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @11:24AM (#41721593)
I'm very curious to know if you had an obituary written up for Princess Diana already, or did you only have them written up for celebrities that were "at risk"?

Was there any kind of cutoff in terms of age? Were there obituaries maintained for child actors and singers? So many questions but it's a very interesting topic!

Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by satori99 on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @04:54PM (#41724888)
Typically, they were managed based on level of fame, health, and age.

Any notable persons named in recent news reports for matters of health were kept near the top of the pile.

There was nothing pre-prepared for Princess Diana's death as she was just too young and healthy, despite her incredible fame.

Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by Hard_Space on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @11:14AM (#41721483)
My grandfather was a newspaper journalist all his life. When he retired, he took a side-gig back with the paper updating obituaries.
Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by ChrisMarshallNY on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @11:26AM (#41721613)
When watching the updated Shōgun, I was struck by how absolutely casual everyone was, about death; both the death of others, and their own.

I assume that was a cultural trait of the time. It does not seem to be so much so, these days.

I was raised in Africa, and was quite familiar with death -frequently violent death, at an early age.

We live in privileged times, where we have the luxury of not thinking about death.

Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by mbonnet on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @01:00PM (#41722711)
When I lived in Sierra Leone, a common Christmas carol translated to "Merry Christmas, we didn't die".
Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by bogosmith on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @11:41AM (#41721773)
In Bulgaria walls like this one are really common. https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%BE...
Re:Why I Write My Own Obituary Every Year by keiferski on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @02:49PM (#41723829)
For anyone interested in these, I visited Bulgaria last year and wrote about them:

https://onthearts.com/p/the-necrologs-of-bulgaria