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Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by Rinzler89 on Friday September 27, 2024 @07:37AM (#41669137)
Based. The more I read about TSMC, the more I like them.
Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by mft_ on Friday September 27, 2024 @09:58AM (#41670567)
Eh; the Russians laughed at Musk, before he started SpaceX; too.
Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by Rinzler89 on Friday September 27, 2024 @10:43AM (#41671108)
I doubt OpenAI will start challenging TSMC at building chips anytime soon.
Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by mft_ on Friday September 27, 2024 @11:20AM (#41671557)
Indeed; but laughing at the scale of someone’s ambition (or vision?) might just mean that one’s own is too narrow or limited. After all, there are lots of narrow-minded, un-visionary folks out there.

Just because there’s an anti-Altman/-OpenAI sentiment on HN at the moment, it doesn’t mean that he’s wrong about everything, nor the people at TSMC are necessarily right.

Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by croes on Friday September 27, 2024 @11:54AM (#41672087)
SpaceX needed NASA money.

Where does Altmann get $7 trillion dollars

Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by Foobar8568 on Friday September 27, 2024 @12:03PM (#41672222)
From his non profit :D
Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by croes on Friday September 27, 2024 @01:01PM (#41672952)
If they pay 7 trillion dollars, they certainly won't make a profit for a long time.
Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by tim333 on Friday September 27, 2024 @05:30PM (#41675724)
He was trying the arabs. It didn't seem to work though.
Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by mft_ on Saturday September 28, 2024 @05:02AM (#41678953)
Again, that it sounds ridiculous rooted in the conventional reality of today, doesn’t necessarily mean he’s wrong in his vision.

Again, the Russians laughed at Musk. The legacy space companies didn’t produce reusable boosters when they clearly could’ve, and people laughed at the idea until it was working. Etc.

(I’m not sure what relevance the NASA comment has; of course small underfunded startups need money to realise their goals? SpaceX needed NASA’s money to develop various projects faster, and NASA needed SpaceX to a) reduce launch costs and b) reduce their reliance on Russia for human launches.)

Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by croes on Saturday September 28, 2024 @05:16AM (#41679039)
NASA paid so SpaceX could follow it's vision.

Who will by pay $7 billions so Altman can follow his?

SpaceX costs were much lower and there goal was to become cheaper.

OpenAI will cost more even with all the chips Altman wants. Those chips need energy.

Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by llm_trw on Saturday September 28, 2024 @05:31AM (#41679103)
Nuclear power will finally make sense.

Sam Altman - savior of humanity.

HN comments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATCrco_V-24

Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by malthaus on Friday September 27, 2024 @11:22AM (#41671580)
indeed, that's about the most sane take on sam's plans i've seen so far from players in this craze

if this house of cards collapses, it will be magnitutes bigger than any bubble (be it hype or fraud) we've seen so far.

what a waste of resources and focus, i really can't take vc players seriously any more (from what is left after the crypto hype run)

Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by anthomtb on Friday September 27, 2024 @01:45PM (#41673507)
I have always taken both Taiwanese and TSMC culture to be fairly reserved. So if you see language like "podcasting bro" slipping out, it really means something like "fcking bullsht con artist".
Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by jarule on Friday September 27, 2024 @02:20PM (#41673934)
Taiwanese culture to be fairly reserved

That's what you see. When you're out of earshot we refer to you by several infantilizing expressions that connote npcness.

Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by llm_trw on Saturday September 28, 2024 @05:28AM (#41679088)
Taiwanese culture has also never understood software which is why they are stuck in the lower margin business of hardware.

AMD and NVidia are important now because someone else struck gold on their property. Within 5 years they won't be because both are fucking up monumentally for different reasons: AMD for being AMD [0] and NVidia for expecting 10x markup to continue indefinitely.

People hate success but LLM swarms are the next wave of improving output and they consume compute on par with training for inference.

[0] https://twitter.com/__tinygrad__/status/1839219312952766942

Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by Rinzler89 on Monday September 30, 2024 @03:40AM (#41694544)
>Taiwanese culture has also never understood software which is why they are stuck in the lower margin business of hardware.

What would have been the alternative for them? Excluding the US, software is not a high margin business.

Re:TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as '... by calf on Friday September 27, 2024 @04:51PM (#41675406)
TSMC is basically the Spacing Guild, nobody messes with them