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Re:The metaverse didn't die. It moved inside Microsoft Fligh... by arnaudsm on Thursday September 26, 2024 @07:27PM (#41664672)
"earth copy" is just marketing lingo. Models are approximations made for a specific goal at a time. You cannot build a model that is both good for gaming and meteorology.

99% of that engine value is procedural terrain and graphical shaders. It looks great but has no scientifical value.

Just like the "digital twin" hype train, cool simulations have fancy graphics, useful simulations don't.

Re:The metaverse didn't die. It moved inside Microsoft Fligh... by ramesh31 on Thursday September 26, 2024 @07:48PM (#41664799)
>You cannot build a model that is both good for gaming and meteorology.

This was the prevailing wisdom in AI before generalized transformers as well. We're rapidly moving toward black box hyperintelligent AGI.

Re:The metaverse didn't die. It moved inside Microsoft Fligh... by arnaudsm on Thursday September 26, 2024 @07:51PM (#41664825)
I was comparing expert systems here, not emergent ones
Re:The metaverse didn't die. It moved inside Microsoft Fligh... by nradov on Thursday September 26, 2024 @11:28PM (#41665989)
There has been zero motion towards true AGI so far, hyperintelligent or otherwise.
Re:The metaverse didn't die. It moved inside Microsoft Fligh... by kylebenzle on Friday September 27, 2024 @01:37AM (#41666605)
So true! I think a lot of people, even here on HN, get confused by the marketing term, "AI".
Re:The metaverse didn't die. It moved inside Microsoft Fligh... by freetanga on Friday September 27, 2024 @01:48AM (#41666663)
Authentic Ignorance, I guess…
Re:The metaverse didn't die. It moved inside Microsoft Fligh... by falcor84 on Friday September 27, 2024 @05:37AM (#41668115)
I would argue that humanity has been advancing rather steadily towards "true AGI" since at least the Jacquard loom. Otherwise, if you wait to admit progress until you actually have evidence for having achieved AGI, it'll just look like the Heaviside step function.
Re:The metaverse didn't die. It moved inside Microsoft Fligh... by nradov on Friday September 27, 2024 @05:32PM (#41675754)
How can you claim that we've been advancing steadily when we don't even know how far the destination is, or if we're moving in the correct direction? There's no basis to claim that it will look anything like a step function; if we do achieve true AGI someday the first one might be equivalent to a really stupid person and then subsequent iterations will gradually improve from there. It seems like a lot of assumptions are being made.
Re:The metaverse didn't die. It moved inside Microsoft Fligh... by falcor84 on Friday September 27, 2024 @05:43PM (#41675847)
You're really not clear if we're moving in the correct direction? What then would be for you an indication that we are?
Re:The metaverse didn't die. It moved inside Microsoft Fligh... by nradov on Friday September 27, 2024 @07:01PM (#41676365)
Show me a computer that can reason in a generalized way at least as well as a chimpanzee (or whatever). And no, LLMs don't count. They are not generalized in any meaningful way.
Re:The metaverse didn't die. It moved inside Microsoft Fligh... by falcor84 on Friday September 27, 2024 @09:56PM (#41677266)
Please do clarify why LLMs aren't generalized - other than not being embodied, they seem quite general to me. Is there any particular reasoning task that you have in mind that chimpanzees are good at, but LLMs are incapable of?