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Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by User23 on Thursday September 26, 2024 @08:41AM (#41657715)
My first thought was “is it parasitic?” And then I click and of course it is.

Parasitic wasps are gross, but fascinating. If I recall correctly there is a parasitic wasp that parasitizes a parasitic wasp that parasitizes a parasitic wasp that parasitizes some kind of caterpillar.

Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by mc_maurer on Thursday September 26, 2024 @10:49AM (#41659054)
The term for parasitoids that attack other parasitoids is a "hyperparasitoid". I did my PhD on parasitoids that attack aphids, but I've never heard of a hyper-hyperparasitoid, do you have any reference to that example?
Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by throwup238 on Thursday September 26, 2024 @11:04AM (#41659216)
I was under the impression that it’s fairly common?

  The caterpillar: Often a pest species like the tomato leafminer
  Primary parasitoid: Cotesia glomerata
  Secondary parasitoid: Lysibia nana and some species from the genus Gelis like agilis
  Tertiary parasitoid: Certain species within the Trichogramma or Eulophidae families.
Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by yannis on Thursday September 26, 2024 @10:55AM (#41659127)
I love this type of studies is your thesis available somewhere on the web?
Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by klyrs on Thursday September 26, 2024 @01:51PM (#41661200)
I recently discovered the existence of hyperparasitoid wasps much to the delight of my entomologist friend. That these things fly and have working nervous system (apparently ditching the neuronal nuclei during metamorphosis?), the ability to navigate etc. continues to blow my mind. They are so tiny!

https://www.nature.com/articles/480294a

Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by Baeocystin on Thursday September 26, 2024 @05:10PM (#41663423)
Wow! At that size, I wonder if it's even technically still flying, or more like swimming through a thick Brownian motion soup.
Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by pfdietz on Thursday September 26, 2024 @08:50AM (#41657805)
Parasitism of any kind is fascinating, and is often horrific.

I was on a bird walk yesterday morning and one of the participants pointed out a brightly colored black and yellow millipede that had climbed up a tree trunk. What was it doing there? I can't be sure, but that species is subject to attack by a fungus that takes control and makes it climb up tree trunks, walls, fenceposts, etc. so that as it expires it discharges spores well above the ground.

A relevant SMBC: https://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2331

Parasitic wasp interactions are also where nature is truly vicious. A predator like a big cat will hunt many times over its life. It cannot risk too much in each encounter, so the interactions are to some extent subdued, the prey often escaping. But with parasitic wasps, it may succeed just once in its life. The stakes are as high as they can be, and the wasp can risk all to succeed.

Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by hinkley on Thursday September 26, 2024 @03:08PM (#41662015)
Cordyceps?
Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by pfdietz on Thursday September 26, 2024 @03:55PM (#41662559)
Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by blipvert on Thursday September 26, 2024 @10:05AM (#41658544)
It’s parasitic wasps all the way down.
Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by crazydoggers on Thursday September 26, 2024 @10:54AM (#41659105)
Some of the wasps have even developed a mutualistic relationship with a virus that helps control the hosts immune system. The wasps have integrated the virus genome into their own so their offspring can continue to infect hosts.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3758193/

Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by throwanem on Thursday September 26, 2024 @12:31PM (#41660389)
...and evolved a unique type of ovarian "calyx" cell, which acts as a bioreplicator to produce virus which the mother wasp delivers during oviposition.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12692280/

Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by kennethrc on Thursday September 26, 2024 @04:15PM (#41662801)
> If I recall correctly there is a parasitic wasp that parasitizes a parasitic wasp that parasitizes a parasitic wasp that parasitizes some kind of caterpillar.

"Yo Dawg, we heard you like parasites, so we put a parasite INSIDE your parasite INSIDE ..."

Re:Another new wasp species discovered by researchers by Scarblac on Thursday September 26, 2024 @06:38PM (#41664279)
The smallest known insects are also parasitic wasps: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicopomorpha_echmepterygis

They're wild. They're born inside the eggs of barklice, and mate there. Males are ~186 micrometer, smaller than some single celled organisms like amoeba!