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Re:Reconductoring: Boosting U.S. Grid Capacity Efficiently by pdx_flyer on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @02:14PM (#41650252)
The article doesn't say much about it but I am sure there is significant work being done at the transmission substations as well to support the extra capacity.
Re:Reconductoring: Boosting U.S. Grid Capacity Efficiently by ghouse on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @03:26PM (#41650973)
As the new conductors will have lower impedance, some breakers may need to be replaced to interrupt higher fault current. Otherwise, it's likely the only substation equipment needing to upgrade would be series compensation stations which may have lower normal and emergency ratings than the upgraded conductors.

More likely is that lower impedance on the reconductored circuit will cause increased flows on other, non-upgraded circuits, either requiring those to be reconductored, or installing phase-shifting tranformers or reactors to limit current.

Re:Reconductoring: Boosting U.S. Grid Capacity Efficiently by sitkack on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @03:37PM (#41651056)
If substations are being upgraded, they should also be installing batteries and inverters at the substations at the same time.
Re:Reconductoring: Boosting U.S. Grid Capacity Efficiently by infecto on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @03:45PM (#41651119)
This sounds like moving the goal and a much more difficult problem than just upgrading the substation.
Re:Reconductoring: Boosting U.S. Grid Capacity Efficiently by pdx_flyer on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @05:16PM (#41651970)
Good points.

Have you seen a lot of phase-shifting transformers in the U.S.? In my experience they've mostly been in Europe with a few specialized applications in the States.

I would think a utility would want to reconductor the other circuits otherwise they're leaving benefits on the table right?

Re:Reconductoring: Boosting U.S. Grid Capacity Efficiently by ghouse on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @08:51PM (#41653400)
I only know the western US. And my experience is consistant with your own -- specialized applications.

They would love to reconductor the other circuits. In the US, the utilities make a guaranteed rate of return on investments in the transmission system. So, anything they regulators will let them do, they'll do -- not necessarily because it has technical benefits, but because it has economic benefits.

This is one reason why reconductoring isn't that popular with utilities -- it allows the utility to get more capacity with less spend, so less profit.

Re:Reconductoring: Boosting U.S. Grid Capacity Efficiently by pdx_flyer on Friday September 27, 2024 @05:38PM (#41675806)
Fair enough. I had a conversation with one utility that was fine with transformers popping (even if preventable) because a popped transformer becomes a capitalizable expense.
Re:Reconductoring: Boosting U.S. Grid Capacity Efficiently by specialist on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @03:27PM (#41650980)
Spot on. David Roberts (Volts) also asked about that in one of his interviews.

IIRC, the expert answer was: substations generally need a retrofit (eg new transformer, breakers, smarts).

Even so, reconductoring is much faster and cheaper than building new lines.

Because retro doesn't require a new permit, often reuse existing footprint, and substations can be upgraded as needed (eg only for sections pushing more power).