And given where pagers are typically kept, future pro-creation of many wounded will be in doubt.

20 grams that's wild. You could only produce these kinds of effects from a 'military grade' explosive like CL-20 or similar.

20 grams of C4 or similar plastic explosive would be more than adequate to produce the effects seen. CL-20 wouldn't be a good choice for this deployment: it's not particularly stable for rough handling even with a good phlegmatizing blend, and tends to decompose at the temps one would expect a pager to be exposed to (hot car, etc).

That's a fair point my knowledge of explosive chemicals only stems from conventional missile-based warheads and propellants. It's very possible a different explosive was used.

C4 would be easily detectable by spectrometers, including at the airports, wouldn’t it?

per a calculator on unsaferguard.org 20g of RDX

Injury/Fatality to Personnel Range (m) Fatal Distance 0.64 Lung Damage 1.02 Eardrum Rupture 2.63

So apparently, it must be less than 20 g of RDX, and/or a weaker explosive: if the fatal distance was within 0.64 meters, there would be significantly more reported deaths.

Or: lower-abdominal proximity has lower lethality.

That charge, held to the ear, would have had a considerably stronger effect.

Distance in meters?

NB: add two spaces before text for "code" formatting, or two linebreaks between lines.

  Injury/Fatality to Personnel Range (m)
  Fatal Distance 0.64
  Lung Damage 1.02
  Eardrum Rupture 2.63

(I'd found your comment in an Algolia search result which shows your original linebreak as entered.)

The word on X is it was Pentaerythritol Tetranitrate (PETN): https://x.com/MattWGraver/status/1836093195240800522 (not me)

Isn’t this a war crime?

Only enemies of the U.S. and its allies can commit 'war crimes'

This is true if you're a sheep and you live in the US or an allied nation and the exact opposite if you live in an unfriendly country.

For example, if you're a sheep in China, China would obviously never commit a war crime.

If you're a sheep in Russia, Russia would obviously never commit a war crime.

If you're a sheep in the US, the US would obviously never commit a war crime.

Etc.

Oh ok, Putin is committing war crimes on a daily basis. Go figure ?

Or terrorism, it's quite astonishing how all western media avoids that term. It's an obscene terrorist attack with complete disregard for civilian life. Grotesque the west supports this barbarism.

Can you name any USA politicians currently lauding this?

You can not have this united bipartisan political front supporting the Israeli government and then feign innocence or impartiality of the violent, indiscriminate slaughter of innocent civilian life. The only defense anyone could plead is to have fallen victim to the western propaganda machine whitewashing it all, so you just didn't know any better. They call it acceptable collateral damage and you just nod along like the sheep you are.

First of all, the discussion is purely hypothetical – noone ever put George W Bush in prison for his Iraq invasion. No matter what you, or the world, thinks of it, it's not going to happen.

Second, what Israel and its enemies are doing is far from the land warfare the laws were written for. Do all Hezbollah soldiers wear uniforms indicating their affiliation and rank? Yeah, I thought so.

More like terrorism.

Probably, but sadly Israel seems pretty comfortable setting of explosives near uninvolved civilians already and since there is no mechanism to realistically hold them to account idk why they'd stop.

Isn’t it that the Islamic fundamentalists they’re trying to defeat the ones who are into killing innocents ?

Why would it be?

Booby traps and indiscriminate targeting.

It's not indiscriminate, they were targeting Hezbollah members as precisely as hardly any conventional weapon would be able to.

Looks like every response explaining what a booby trap is has been flagged, so I will just leave this link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Mines,_Booby-Tra...

Bobby traps are triggered by the target; these were remotely triggered. These were highly targeted to group members.

Highly targeted? 2 children were killed

If you are mailed something in the mail, is that indiscriminately mailing or targeted mailing? It is obviously targeted. If you mail a business, it is targeted. If you mail a business something to give to all their employees, that is targeted.

Just because someone else might get what is mailed to me or that someone else might pick up what was sent to me doesn't make it "untargeted" - it is highly targeted. But missed.

The Trump attempted assassination was highly targeted and a bystander died.

I feel I have made my case. Can you provide rationale for yours beyond collateral damage? I feel the Trump example trumps that.

Post edit: I also want to acknowledge that you can feel that this is horrible and terrible and all the bad things. We are simply talking about the definition of targeted

Which one more specifically?

When there's a lot of civilians nearby. Not like that has ever stopped Israel though.

Yes.

Who exactly is Amir Tsarfati and why is this a trusted source for numbers? I can't find anything reliable about him by search engine.