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Re:Stephen Fry – AI: A Means to an End or a Means to Our End? by blastro on Monday September 16, 2024 @01:21PM (#41558301)
Not trying to be pedantic, but:

> We don't simulate a bird's bones and muscles

Isn't really true, is it?

We simulate the bones with an airframe, and we simulate the muscles with a prop/jet. The wings are similarly simulated.

Re:Stephen Fry – AI: A Means to an End or a Means to Our End? by r2_pilot on Monday September 16, 2024 @01:28PM (#41558388)
A more suitable word would be that we "emulate" the bones, etc., rather than simulate, which to me implies that you are testing against a replica of a thing. But I don't really think emulate works here because they're not especially analogous; these are fundamentally different approaches to flight so any form following the function would be incidental at best.
Re:Stephen Fry – AI: A Means to an End or a Means to Our End? by blastro on Tuesday September 24, 2024 @05:02PM (#41640860)
That's fair.
Re:Stephen Fry – AI: A Means to an End or a Means to Our End? by Jabrov on Monday September 16, 2024 @01:29PM (#41558389)
I was thinking OP meant more simulate as in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWorm ie. a complete bottom-up simulation at the cellular level

By your definition of simulate, I think artificial neural networks are absolutely on their way to simulate intelligence

Re:Stephen Fry – AI: A Means to an End or a Means to Our End? by suriya-ganesh on Monday September 16, 2024 @01:28PM (#41558384)
The type of propulsion is not, though. Nothing in nature has 360° rotatory motion. Airplane is not an exact simulation of a bird. Only an approximation
Re:Stephen Fry – AI: A Means to an End or a Means to Our End? by dboreham on Monday September 16, 2024 @02:03PM (#41558752)
Re:Stephen Fry – AI: A Means to an End or a Means to Our End? by exe34 on Monday September 16, 2024 @01:25PM (#41558353)
yes, the wings flap. the airframes are made of bone.