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Re:How a scientist is pushing to supersize research into ult... by jampekka on Saturday September 14, 2024 @02:11PM (#41541649)
> Even reading the Nova classification, the scientific verbiage describing the ultra processed category could easily describe making egg noodles at home.

It can't because per Nova for something to be "ultra-processed" it has to be "industrially manufactured". Unless you're involved in cottage industry I guess.

"Ultra-processed" is a ridiculous categorization, a bit like some compounds artificially being labeled as "chemicals" and some not.

Re:How a scientist is pushing to supersize research into ult... by Symmetry on Saturday September 14, 2024 @02:34PM (#41541840)
There are certainly certain categories of chemical that might be of interest. For instance you don't normally find emulsification agents in non-processed food but you do in industrial food, whether the particular chemical is made in a lab or extracted from some plant or other. But many, many other ways that we industrially manufacture food are obviously no worse than making our own noodles at home.
Re:How a scientist is pushing to supersize research into ult... by jampekka on Saturday September 14, 2024 @02:50PM (#41541948)
E.g. agar-agar is an emulsifying agent. It's ground seaweed. As is chickpea wash. Both used for at least centuries.
Re:How a scientist is pushing to supersize research into ult... by throwup238 on Saturday September 14, 2024 @03:19PM (#41542125)
Even the more exotic sounding stuff like xanthan gum are often stuff like fermentation byproducts. Totally organic!
Re:How a scientist is pushing to supersize research into ult... by hinkley on Saturday September 14, 2024 @03:20PM (#41542132)
Xanthan on the other hand is a bacterial wash, isn’t it? And we use it because guar got priced up by fracking.
Re:How a scientist is pushing to supersize research into ult... by musicale on Saturday September 14, 2024 @04:25PM (#41542575)
I was excited when I found that I could actually buy xanthan gum in the grocery store; now I can make delicious foods at home!
Re:How a scientist is pushing to supersize research into ult... by cassepipe on Sunday September 15, 2024 @05:31AM (#41546373)
It's not a about the chemical it's about the quantity. If there is sorbitol in each food I eat, I will feel unwell all the time without knowing why. That's a terrible life experience.
Re:How a scientist is pushing to supersize research into ult... by RevEng on Monday September 16, 2024 @03:14PM (#41559472)
Sorbitol is known to cause GI issues. Some chemicals are actually just bad, but most aren't.