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Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by caslon on Thursday September 12, 2024 @08:19AM (#41519971)
Have you ever been pulled over by a cop and given a warning? Many people have.

As long as there's any amount of leeway in enforcement of the law, things like courtesy cards will exist. All it is is a little nudge to say, "Hey. I'm one of you and yours. Let's let it slide."

That will continue to exist even if the cards entirely disappear.

Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday September 12, 2024 @08:27AM (#41520067)
> As long as there's any amount of leeway in enforcement of the law, things like courtesy cards will exist

The moment it’s standardised not only in writing, but as a physical object, it should become trivially prosecutable. The existence of these cards should trigger DoJ intervention. (Maybe the Adams administration’s recent failings will prompt this.)

Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by frob on Thursday September 12, 2024 @09:04AM (#41520452)
There won't be any DoJ intervention for two reasons:

1. The existence of these cards has been widely known about for well over a decade.

2. The DoJ is full of cops as well.

Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday September 12, 2024 @10:02AM (#41521103)
> DoJ is full of cops as well

This hypothesis would appear to be disprovable by the DoJ prosecuting cops. (Hint: they do. Including entire police forces.)

Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by janice1999 on Thursday September 12, 2024 @08:24AM (#41520023)
This isn't about police exercising their judgement. It's about creating a privileged class who are above the law. This is gang behaviour.
Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by dole on Thursday September 12, 2024 @10:21AM (#41521334)
Takes a criminal to catch one, as they say. Deputy gangs have been around since the 1970's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LASD_deputy_gangs

Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by caslon on Monday September 16, 2024 @08:38PM (#41562748)
Police are gangs, though, definitionally.
Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by kwhitefoot on Thursday September 12, 2024 @08:38AM (#41520159)
> As long as there's any amount of leeway in enforcement of the law, things like courtesy cards will exist

Do they exist somewhere else?

The police have wide discretion to issue a warning instead of a fine in most countries as far as I know. But these cards seem to be unique to NYPD. I don't mean that corruption doesn't exist elsewhere but usually it's a little less obvious!

Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by hiatus on Thursday September 12, 2024 @08:52AM (#41520303)
They're not unique to NYPD. Cops in New Jersey have them too and I'm sure others.
Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by _djo_ on Thursday September 12, 2024 @09:14AM (#41520548)
They're quite unique to the US. I've never heard of anything like this in European or other developed country police forces.
Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by sobkas on Thursday September 12, 2024 @09:16AM (#41520570)
The question is, does cops in civilized countries have them. Because them being a thing in USA is something to be expected.
Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by homebrewer on Thursday September 12, 2024 @09:22AM (#41520632)
In my highly corrupt country, it's enough to tell the officer you know person so-and-so. They might ask you a question or two, or even threaten to call the person you claim to know, but they rarely do.
Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by NoGravitas on Friday September 13, 2024 @08:58AM (#41530830)
That's what you do in smaller towns in the US. Especially in the South, but I'm sure it's pretty much the same elsewhere. Cards are a big-city thing, maybe even just a NYC thing.
Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by IggleSniggle on Thursday September 12, 2024 @08:22AM (#41520003)
Letting it slide is one thing. Letting it slide because of who someone is, is something else entirely. Just because the behavior will continue to exist doesn't mean it should be actively encouraged or systemized.
Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by skywal_l on Thursday September 12, 2024 @08:36AM (#41520140)
I've seen a movie where a cop gives a warning to one of the character and actually enters the warning into the system so that warnings are tracked. The guy is a bad dude that does not want to leave a trace so ends up killing the cop.

I don't know if it's an actual thing.

Edit: I remember now, it was Jack Reacher season 2.

Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by aceofspades19 on Thursday September 12, 2024 @09:38AM (#41520824)
At least in Canada, you can get an official warning where they fill out the ticket slip but don't fine you. I'm not sure how long its tracked for but it is a real thing. Also I do believe that the car being pulled over is likely logged somewhere usually in the officer's notes.
Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by HideousKojima on Thursday September 12, 2024 @09:11AM (#41520520)
The reason he killed the cop wasn't that he didn't want to leave any trace (though he killed other people over that previously) it's that the car was stolen from someone he had murdered and he knew that that would show up when the cop ran the plates.
Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by sandworm101 on Thursday September 12, 2024 @08:23AM (#41520014)
Most of the time when a "warning" is given it is because the cop doesnt have sufficient evidence for a ticket. Dont tell the cop how fast you were driving. If they ask, the probably dont know.
Re:Officer who ignored NYPD's 'courtesy cards' receives $175... by lotsofpulp on Thursday September 12, 2024 @08:21AM (#41520000)
Formal corruption like this is a show of force by the enforcers that they are above others. It’s also useful for cops figure out which other cops will cover for them, rather than apply the law fairly (see article).