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Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by moffkalast on Monday September 09, 2024 @06:03PM (#41494550)
5G is rapidly becoming this.

I'm still using a phone that's only a few years old and maxes out at 4G. Lately it's started sporadically losing connection entirely in locations where it previously worked perfectly... meanwhile everyone around me has a five bar 5G signal on their newer models. They've started to do to 4G what they did to E, H and 3G, complete bandwidth reduction to fuckin zero so the latest protocol can hog all frequencies. Planned obsolescence or what? Upgrade or we will slowly reduce your device to a useless brick.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by secondcoming on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:10PM (#41495276)
Doesn’t 5G piggyback on 4G though?
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by rangestransform on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @07:44AM (#41499775)
At the beginning, marketers tried to trick customers into thinking that high bandwidth LTE is 5G
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by mihaaly on Monday September 09, 2024 @06:22PM (#41494787)
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Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by Dylan16807 on Monday September 09, 2024 @08:53PM (#41496040)
> Planned obsolescence or what?

No, it's not an artificial barrier.

Cell phone spectrum is very limited. Making everyone switch every 8-9 years is reasonable.

In particular, 5G was available on many phones before 2020 and 6G might start deploying in 2030.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by mihaaly on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @04:25AM (#41498493)
> Making everyone switch every 8-9 years is reasonable.

Not for the users, no!

Who the f cares what G is that if it does what is needed? Replacing is only reasonable for those who want to push through new things (to sell, keep themselves in their position, be paid). Technical barriers have overcome creatively in countless situations in history and we do not need ever increasing bandwith after a satisfactory level reached. Using old spectrums scarcely used should be possible in alternative manner but not f up the life of customers who pay for the whole thing if can be avoided!!

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @06:13AM (#41499219)
Customers have spoken and said the speed isn't satisfactory yet. And very few of them have complaints about this advancement rate. You have been outvoted.

4G and 5G can share to a good extent but it's not worth making every tower do both.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by vel0city on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @10:54AM (#41501417)
> we do not need ever increasing bandwith after a satisfactory level reached

Who says 4G was satisfactory for even the majority of customers? It wasn't satisfactory to me. Sure, useable, but there were (and still are) a number of things that aren't reliable enough that I'd like to do with the wireless networks available today.