Why GitHub Won - Hackdot

Re:Why GitHub Won by saghm on Monday September 09, 2024 @03:46PM (#41492726)

I assumed Flutter is open source; if they fix kill it off, is there a reason to not to expect the community to fork and maintain it? Presumably they'd have to rebrand it without Google giving permission for the name, but that alone doesn't seem like enough to stop it from existing in some form.

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Re:Why GitHub Won by clhodapp on Monday September 09, 2024 @03:56PM (#41492861)

The base ROI of Flutter to Google isn't all that clear because it's relatively complex to maintain. Worse, it requires maintaining Dart, which appears to be a dead-end language in terms of adoption.

If Flutter and Dart were donated to the community, they would most likely slowly die because no one outside of Google gets enough benefit from them to justify maintaining an entire programming language.

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Re:Why GitHub Won by nox101 on Monday September 09, 2024 @04:11PM (#41493063)

It's worse. Flutter actually works against google's own interests. Webpages that render text in a canvas are not as easily indexable as webpages that emit html. It's funny too because the same is true for sites made with flutter. They aren't SEO friendly

You could suggest using AI to OCR the canvas but even that would be subpar because most sites that use HTML provide multiple screens worth of info but sites that render to a canvas render only what's visible. The rest of the data is internal. You'd not only need the AI to successfully OCR the text, you'd need it to interact with the page get it to render what's not currently displayed.

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Re:Why GitHub Won by timschmidt on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:42PM (#41495543)

Accessibility interfaces are ideal for this situation, allowing an LLM to interact with a GUI strictly through text. Unfortunately, they're often an afterthought in implementations.

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Re:Why GitHub Won by pjmlp on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @10:35AM (#41501219)

Same can be said from GWT.

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Re:Why GitHub Won by kelnos on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:07PM (#41495249)

> is there a reason to not to expect the community to fork and maintain it?

I think you should ask the opposite question instead, and this goes for any project that is corporate "owned"/sponsored like Flutter: why should we expect the community to maintain it if the company abandons it?

Are there any non-Googlers with commit access to the project? Do non-Googlers comprise a decent percentage of contributions? If not, the bar goes up quite a bit for a fork, or for a "peaceful handoff" of the existing project.

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