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Re:Concrete clickbait: next time you share a spomenik photo,... by izacus on Sunday September 08, 2024 @09:42AM (#41480357)
It bothers me more than it should that he calls them "spomeniks", because that's literally just a word meaning "monument" in the local languages.

It's like someone going "did you know American monuments are known as monuments locally?"

Re:Concrete clickbait: next time you share a spomenik photo,... by grujicd on Sunday September 08, 2024 @09:56AM (#41480428)
While that's true that we use word spomenik for all monuments, I think outside of Balkans it's now recognized as a word describing specific abstract and grandiose type of monument. So world (or Internet community at least) took our word and appropriated it to mean something else.

Anyway, if someone visit one of Balkan countries and ask to see spomenik, expect locals to be confused and would not know what exactly you mean.

Re:Concrete clickbait: next time you share a spomenik photo,... by pvg on Sunday September 08, 2024 @11:01AM (#41480822)
Паметник would like to have a word!

More seriously, I think you're exactly right about the adopted internet-English meaning of 'spomenik' and the article is right to make a distinction between this particular (and much more interesting) variety and your more generic strictly-regime-sponsored concrete artblob.

Re:Concrete clickbait: next time you share a spomenik photo,... by izacus on Sunday September 08, 2024 @02:26PM (#41482104)
Hence why I said "bothers me more than it should". Language lives and I know english took upon a certain meaning. It still tickles my brain wrong :)
Re:Concrete clickbait: next time you share a spomenik photo,... by debugnik on Sunday September 08, 2024 @11:29AM (#41480959)
This is common with loan words, though: Sahara, chai, manga, naan, salsa... They're all generic words which non-native speakers attach context to.
Re:Concrete clickbait: next time you share a spomenik photo,... by literallycancer on Sunday September 08, 2024 @02:05PM (#41481966)
Yeah, people obsessed with Russia, and sometimes even normal experts studying Russia tend to use Russian words that way.