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Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by mensetmanusman on Saturday September 07, 2024 @08:37AM (#41473587)
Has anyone built the AI web browser yet? The one that redraws any image you might find offensive, rewords advertisements, and rephrases comments to be positive?

That would be cool?

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by krona on Saturday September 07, 2024 @09:22AM (#41473807)
I would call it Soma in reference to Brave New World.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by talldayo on Saturday September 07, 2024 @12:01PM (#41474622)
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by UristMcPencil on Saturday September 07, 2024 @12:16PM (#41474700)
Issue#92: boycott GitHub for Zionism

Given the repo name, I shouldn't have been surprised

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by aguaviva on Saturday September 07, 2024 @04:09PM (#41476156)
Unfortunately there is a very pertinent context to the concerns raised by that user:

  Microsoft has invested in a startup that uses facial recognition to surveil Palestinians throughout the West Bank, in spite of the tech giant’s public pledge to avoid using the technology if it encroaches on democratic freedoms.

  AnyVision, which is headquartered in Israel but has offices in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore, sells an “advanced tactical surveillance” software system, Better Tomorrow. It lets customers identify individuals and objects in any live camera feed, such as a security camera or a smartphone, and then track targets as they move between different feeds.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/why-did-microsoft-fund-isra...
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by thelittleone on Saturday September 07, 2024 @06:05PM (#41476744)
They seriously called this app Better Tomorrow. Just wow.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by jay-barronville on Saturday September 07, 2024 @12:14PM (#41474687)
> Yes: https://github.com/alganzory/HaramBlur

No. This is more similar to an ad blocker, but focused on helping Muslims respect their religious standards while they browse the web. I’m not a Muslim, but it makes perfect sense to me. Good for them—I see no problem with it.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by stoperaticless on Saturday September 07, 2024 @04:53PM (#41476424)
Mixed feelings.

Somebody installs it for him/her-self. Sure, power to you!

Neibhour in non-muslim state installs it for their children: their right, but feels fishy regarding child right to truth.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by jay-barronville on Saturday September 07, 2024 @08:18PM (#41477303)
> […] their right, but feels fishy regarding child right to truth.

I’m not sure what’s fishy about it. Parents have always controlled what their children should have access to and consume. The entire concept of “parental controls” exists for this reason—we’ve always understood a parent’s rights over their children and none of that was at all controversial until like 5 minutes ago.

This is a digression anyway, so I’ll just stop there…

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by umbra07 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @07:38PM (#41477128)
Yes, let's encourage gender divides and backwards thinking.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by jay-barronville on Saturday September 07, 2024 @08:28PM (#41477350)
> Yes, let's encourage gender divides and backwards thinking.

I’m sorry that everyone in the world doesn’t think the way you’d like them to.

I know lots of Muslims, both male and female, and they’re perfectly normal to me. In fact, some of them are some of the most wholesome folks I know: Humble and hardworking humans who build and love their families, and of course, believe in something much greater than themselves. I see nothing “backwards” about that.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by Log_out_ on Sunday September 08, 2024 @01:17PM (#41481631)
just dont seem to produce much art ,innovation and working institutions in any region they are culturally dominant. and when asked why that is digress fast into antisemitism and conspiracy babble.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by lincon127 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @11:08AM (#41474318)
Well, that sounds horrifying.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by TacticalCoder on Saturday September 07, 2024 @09:19AM (#41473792)
> The one that redraws any image you might find offensive, rewords advertisements, and rephrases comments to be positive?

You're kidding but I've already toyed with using AI models to analyze browsers' screenshots and determining if it's likely phishing or not and it works very well.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by jay-barronville on Saturday September 07, 2024 @12:40PM (#41474826)
> […] I've already toyed with using AI models to analyze browsers' screenshots and determining if it's likely phishing or not and it works very well.

Assuming the AI is comparing screenshots of real versus phishing, it can only figure it out for poorly done phishing websites.

As phishing scams get more sophisticated with scam websites that look exactly like the real ones, the only things that truly matter are protocols (i.e., HTTP versus HTTPS), domains, URL’s, certificates, etc.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by keeda on Saturday September 07, 2024 @02:41PM (#41475584)
Very interesting, I'm working on exactly the same problem from a couple different angles, but I'm not having much luck. I have negligible background in AI/ML or computer vision however, so I'm most certainly Holding it Wrong (TM). My general approach has been trying to generate embeddings using smaller models like MobileNet and ResNet (not trained or finetuned or anything) and using similarity metrics like Cosine distance, but there's too many false positives. If you can disclose it, would you be willing to expand on what has worked for you?
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by causality0 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @11:33AM (#41474467)
In the past I've had fun with extensions that randomize genders and ethnicities.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by kylebenzle on Saturday September 07, 2024 @10:22AM (#41474096)
That is 100% what Facebook and Google are doing now with targeted ads and search results.

Most people already only see the web the way Google wants them to see it.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by brookst on Saturday September 07, 2024 @10:42AM (#41474185)
True, but to be fair this isn’t Google being ideological. They’re just responding to customer signals that customers prefer content to be shaped. If there was more CLV in one-size-fits-all search results, Google would do that.

There’s an argument that Google should not cater to our preferences, but I don’t think I buy it.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by Hizonner on Saturday September 07, 2024 @11:22AM (#41474405)
Google's customers are advertisers, not you.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by rvba on Saturday September 07, 2024 @12:16PM (#41474698)
There was an article here 2 or 3 months ago about the person responsible for making google search so much worse.

So arguably google does not respond to customers anymore. Shareholders? Maybe. But probably those who prefer short term gain, not long term value.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40133976

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by echelon on Saturday September 07, 2024 @09:58AM (#41473978)
This would kill Google if it caught on.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by kylebenzle on Saturday September 07, 2024 @10:22AM (#41474100)
This IS Google.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @09:14AM (#41473768)
Hah. It is still early morning so I let my mind run wild for a while. I am not aware of any public facing projects that do that, but in my minds eye I saw polymorphic browser adjusting its code to meet the new AI web that is constantly in flux.

You want privacy? It stamps out any attempts at fingerprinting by attempting to be the most common browser (and config) out there, it spoofs any and all identifying data, it redraws pages without paywalls, without cookie notices and puts all pages in simple text output mode removing all other ads in the process, but keeps pictures for fora that use them.

You want 1984? It won't let you see anything that is not approved by the party.

Onwards, to our glorious future.

edit:

Valuemaxx edition. Store pages with discounts have bruteforced discounts found and added for maximum value.

It already is crazy. I can't even begin to imagine it being more crazy.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by mensetmanusman on Saturday September 07, 2024 @09:29AM (#41473838)
This should exist. You could get to such low bandwidth with such a system. Every image could be replaced by a description. Etc.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by dudeinjapan on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:25PM (#41475064)
Startup idea #72831: Build "Nostalgia" browser which uses AI to convert every page to Web 1.0, complete with "Under Construction" banners and CGI visitor counters.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by linotype on Saturday September 07, 2024 @06:53PM (#41476951)
+1, I’d pay for a license.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by AStonesThrow on Saturday September 07, 2024 @02:30PM (#41475521)
"Guys, I am just pleased as punch to inform you that there are two thermo-nuclear missiles headed this way... if you don't mind, I'm gonna go ahead and take evasive action." -- Eddie, the Shipboard Computer (Douglas Adams)
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by BlueTemplar on Saturday September 07, 2024 @04:39PM (#41476332)
There have been a bunch of more or less jokey browser extensions over the years replacing some specific words by others.