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Re:China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over ... by vidarh on Friday June 22, 2012 @08:28AM (#4146462)
As much as I want this to be true, I don't see anything in terms of sources, I've never heard of this site before, and the style of writing doesn't exactly make it seem very credible.

I haven't tried very hard, but didn't immediately find any other sites with this news that weren't simply linking to or regurgitating this article. Losing or winning a contract this size is something you'd expect a lot of well known news sites to cover.

Re:China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over ... by DaNmarner on Friday June 22, 2012 @09:15AM (#4146626)
The Author seems legit, here's a list of his open-source-related writings prior to 2010:

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Author/146235,nebojsa-novakovi...

Re:China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over ... by drzaiusapelord on Friday June 22, 2012 @05:26PM (#4148899)
The chinese are heavily invested in some kind of technology independence. The chip mentioned in this piece is most likely the nationalized homebrew CPU the Godson/Dragon/Loongson:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson

I guess they've gotten to the point where they want to push this CPU onto their school children with their Red Flag Linux distro.

I suspect there's more to the story other than "herp derp nvidia is stupidz!!" Open sourcing their drivers may open them to liablity or patent issues and/or give AMD a nice look into the nvidia internals. For all the grief AMD gets at least they opened their specs and allowed a community driver. The problem is that the OSS advocates want their cake and to eat it too. They don't want to develop all the hard 3D stuff, potentially get in patent issues, empower the competition, etc but expect NVIDIA to do this for them.

3D is a patent minefield. All the more reason to encourage patent reform.

Re:China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over ... by vlasta2 on Friday June 22, 2012 @08:44AM (#4146521)
Also, there is one thing about the title of this story that I do not understand. Why would a failed negotiation imply that "nvidia is losing face"?
Re:China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over ... by drucken on Friday June 22, 2012 @02:12PM (#4147953)
The author clearly means Nvidia losing face with respect to China.

This concept of "losing face" may seem like just a small word or minor loss of reputation to Westerners, but in a sense is more important in China (and to varying extent all over the Far East) than even money.

If the story is true, and the depth of detail leads me to believe it is very likely, then the reputational damage to Nvidia would be high and, more importantly, entrenched (an aspect of face that makes it different from mere temporary reputational loss) due the public service, government angle and the size of the proposal.

Re:China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over ... by mc32 on Friday June 22, 2012 @03:09PM (#4148252)
Also, the CEO is from Taiwan, so there could be some actual politics involved, seeing as CN regards TW as their "renegade" province.
Re:China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over ... by swang on Friday June 22, 2012 @04:59PM (#4148771)
That has nothing to do with it. Why would China even meet with Nvidia if their CEO being Taiwanese was an issue? There are tons of Taiwanese companies manufacturing in China and China has interests in Taiwan as well.

Assuming that this story is true (since it's based off "Rumors out of Beijing").

Re:China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over ... by mc32 on Friday June 22, 2012 @06:58PM (#4149318)
I'm just speculating. I'm not making a stament of fact. However, it's not out of the question that CN cares about the politics of the people who deal with CN.
Re:China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over ... by dewiz on Friday June 22, 2012 @09:10AM (#4146615)
as far as I can understand the convoluted article, the losing face part refers to Linus' outing
Re:China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over ... by obtu on Friday June 22, 2012 @10:37AM (#4146898)
The connection they imply is doubtful. They give no date for the Nvidia negotiation, but (assuming it isn't misrepresented) it must have taken a lot of time (enough that the Chinese could pick something from AMD in the end). And I doubt Linus heard about it, either (the “behind the curtain reason for Linus' frustration” idea must have come from someone unfamiliar with him or the video of the event). The only commonality is that both find Nvidia hard to work with, in different contexts.
Re:China: Nvidia Loses Face and a 10 Million PC Order over ... by boralben on Friday June 22, 2012 @10:15PM (#4149837)
My interpretation is that Nvidia caused the Chinese to lose face, and this what will doom them to lose future contracts. I've been living here in China for 6 months now, and the social aspects of business, like face, are really nuanced, but so so important. I don't really understand them yet.