Re:Starlink U-turns, will block X in Brazil after all
by jemmyw on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @09:32AM
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Labour in the UK didn't win by a slim margin. They were +10% of the popular vote and have a landslide majority in Parliament. It hasn't been unusual in the past for a govt in the UK to win while losing the popular vote, so they do have a mandate.
Re:Starlink U-turns, will block X in Brazil after all
by krrrh on Thursday September 05, 2024 @12:51AM
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Labour won a majority of the seats but barely increased their percentage of the vote (33.7%) over what they managed in the previous election when they lost handily (32.1%). It was the most disproportionate election in UK history in terms of how popular vote mapped to seats won.
You may be technically correct but the comment above has a point. It’s not a strong mandate, and it’s more fair to emphasize that the Tories collapsed than that Labour won.
Re:Starlink U-turns, will block X in Brazil after all
by andsoitis on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @09:29AM
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> They supported Bolsonaro's coup, and now they'll support the destruction of freedom of speech in their country to keep Bolsonaro from speaking.
Why did they do a 180?
Re:Starlink U-turns, will block X in Brazil after all
by tmottabr on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @01:08PM
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they didn't..
Bolsonaro has his supporters and a share of then did ask for a military coup, but those are minority..
Majority of the country was against a coup.. But popular support changed nothing..
The military coup did not worked because the US send messages indicating they would not support it, so the air force and army commanders backed out of it..
Re:Starlink U-turns, will block X in Brazil after all
by ricardorivaldo on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @04:02PM
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brazil is a functional liberal democracy, current presidente is left wing, rightfull elected in 2022 by a process recognized by the world, including USA en EU, China, russia and all. Legislative has a majority of right wing elected deputies, juditiary is choosen by open access civil service examination with some reasonable requirements (law degree), except the ones in suppreme court which are selected by elected president (like in USA), they do not stay for life, although and must quit when reach 75 years old
If you're confused by the self-righteous of upper-middle class Brazilians about this, they had the same reaction to disappearances and torture during the dictatorship. You wouldn't dare take over a country without the support of the upper-middle class who will have to administer it. You can convince them of anything that doesn't affect their comfort at all. They supported Bolsonaro's coup, and now they'll support the destruction of freedom of speech in their country to keep Bolsonaro from speaking. They're actually beaming with pride about how they're not free to speak, similar to neocons in the US.
I thought Lula was mostly a good guy, but he seems more a passenger than a president at this point. The administration must be very confident of being able to prevent future elections, because they won my a tiny margin (just as Labour in the UK and the Democrats in the US), but they think they have the mandate to come down hard. Brasil nunca mais?
[*] the evil of Elon Musk being a bit libertarian means that all Brazilians should be censored.