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Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by the_real_cher on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @04:57AM (#41443405)
America didn't used to be the country that offered those opportunities.

Yet people built it and made it that way.

Nothing is static people csn change anything

These people need to do that in their own countries.

Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by shiroiushi on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @05:15AM (#41443527)
The people that built it and made it that way in America were all immigrants.
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by the_real_cher on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @05:27AM (#41443607)
I didn't know Bell labs employees Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were all immigrants
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by ivewonyoung on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @05:46AM (#41443732)
Steve Jobs' father and grandparents were Syrian.
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by pacerier on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @06:25AM (#41443973)
> didn't used to be

That's false. By definition none would have come if there wasn't opportunity. You don't need to be a geography student to see that it wasn't just irreligious opportunity.

Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by the_real_cher on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @09:20AM (#41445443)
do you think opportunity just magically springs up in places or do you think people make it?
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @09:41AM (#41445765)
People who are looking for opportunity see a place where they could make it.
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by cudgy on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @09:39AM (#41445750)
Both
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by pacerier on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @06:06PM (#41451360)
As stated, the geography of north America provides the opportunity, before there were Americans.

Gold rush and stuff is just a bonus, the big money is in cattle and agriculture.

Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by surgical_fire on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @05:25AM (#41443596)
Kind of ironic, considering the whole original population of America (the whole continent) was mostly replaced by immigrants, starting some time after 1492 AD.
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by the_real_cher on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @05:28AM (#41443621)
well in that context they were conquerors
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by surgical_fire on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @05:32AM (#41443646)
Colonizers rather than conquerors. Colonizers are effectively migrants, by the very definition of the word.
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by defrost on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @05:45AM (#41443727)
The British India Company colonisation of India was institutional colonisation.

The company remained for many generations but most (not all) individual British people stationed themselves in India and retired 'home' to England where to whence the money flowed.

Many European countries regarded their "colonies" as places to exploit for resources, places to be travelled to for work for many years, places they didn't regard as 'home'.

There's more to "colonisation" than just simple migration.

Even in Australia the early colonisation was by settler families that were part of larger stay at home families, the black sheep, wayward sons, and fortune seeking adventurers .. in Australia convicts and servant families remained, ultimately a good proportion of the underwritten (from home) settlers stayed .. but initially at least many heads of these families "returned home" to England.

In a similar manner modern USofA has many institutional "colonies" around the globe, bases they've established and never left, these rarely have permanently settled multi generational families.

Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by the_real_cher on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @09:22AM (#41445463)
and those countries that were colonized by Western Civilization countries are very lucky.

they are typically the top performing GDP countries of their region with some of the best quality of life for their citizens

Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by surgical_fire on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @11:40AM (#41447072)
Oh yes. Get the list of countries colonized by the awesome Western Civilization. You will be surprised to learn the world is a lot larger than US and Canada.
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by the_real_cher on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @03:00PM (#41449292)
Just look at African or South American countries by GDP and see which ones are at the top of the list
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by surgical_fire on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @03:23PM (#41449604)
You are aware that all South and Central American countries were colonized by Western Powers right?
Re:Immigration has remade the U.S. labor force by shiroiushi on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @09:44PM (#41452707)
Obviously he has no clue, and thinks all the (largely southern-)European-looking Spanish and Portuguese-speaking people there somehow descended from Aztecs and Incas.