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Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by kranke155 on Tuesday September 03, 2024 @07:15PM (#41440263)
It’s not memory, it happened at the time, within around 30 seconds, between me hearing the voice and her imitating it.

Good way to disqualify the opinion or experience of anyone.

Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 03, 2024 @08:06PM (#41440533)
> It’s not memory, it happened at the time, within around 30 seconds, between me hearing the voice and her imitating it.

People can mix up exact details and whether two things feel the same in that amount of time, especially if they recently took drugs.

> Good way to disqualify the opinion or experience of anyone.

Look, you specifically asked for a skeptical explanation. You're right that it's not a disproof, but it does mean your experience isn't particularly convincing as an anecdote.

Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by kranke155 on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @05:35AM (#41443664)
I hadn't taken drugs for a month when I met the shaman song lady. I don't take drugs in general due to my bipolar.
Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by truculent on Tuesday September 03, 2024 @07:26PM (#41440332)
Parent poster is being unnecessarily smug and dismissive, but the point is that however close in time the events were, they are now entrenched in fallible memory.
Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by deciplex on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @07:56PM (#41452078)
> Parent poster is being unnecessarily smug and dismissive

Can you elaborate? I tried to keep a neutral tone.

Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by deciplex on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @08:02PM (#41452111)
I mean people have deja vu which is literally your brain misinterpreting a currently-happening experience as a memory. Medical literature is filled with tons of quirks of human perception and memory, and we frequently find new ones and new twists on existing ones.

It is not remotely a stretch to attribute "I recognized this woman's voice as someone else's voice" as just a run-of-the-mill fault of perception and memory. Especially when the alternative at hand is apparently something supernatural (or, at least, new physics).

Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by kranke155 on Thursday September 05, 2024 @07:07AM (#41455464)
I think electricity would have appeared supernatural to someone 2000 years ago, yet it was there and all around us.

Just because our current understanding hasn’t got all the answers doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, that’s the way I see it.

I think some things that we think of as supernatural now will have an “explanation” later. How much later I don’t know.

Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by deciplex on Thursday September 05, 2024 @02:28PM (#41459230)
Our current understanding has most of the answers you seek, and compelling reasoning for why they are the correct answers.