Example of innovation please. I’ve seen first hand that no collective farm is able to produce nor SpaceX nor even EV nor even plant in time and harvest in time.

I'm not close enough to manufacturing to evaluate how innovative their approaches to factory automation are, but it's not like they're based solely on turnips:

https://www.mondragon-assembly.com/automotive/

The collective farm that produced SpaceX is the United States Government. It carried out all the research and development necessary to create and further the North American space program. And it is existential in furthering it to this day. Without this source of contracts, research projects and income SpaceX would not be able to produce its commercial spin-off products.

You obviously never been to a collective farm.

Despite government support to the extent much larger than that for SpaceX collective farms have nothing to show for it.

Maybe because they are farms and not rocket makers

Why they are farms and not rocket makers? Because collective.

But there are very successful rocketry collectives! They just typically aren't called "farms".

Things like Friends of Amateur Rocketry have all the characteristics of a collective (including legal status) https://friendsofamateurrocketry.org/

The constraining factor is typically budget (as mentioned up-thread).

By this logic capitalism is the thing holding back capitalist farms from being rocket makers too? Or do you only apply it when you get to use the word "collective"?

Of course it is the logic of collective. In capitalism you decide how you'd want to spend your resources, on a farm or on a rocket. In collective it is collective who decides.

Capitalist farms - why are they farms and not rocket makers? Is capitalism holding them back?

In capitalism it is your choice how to spend your resources - on the farm or on a rocket shop.

That's not an excuse. In socialist Czechoslovakia, a coop farm produced computers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JZD_Slu%C5%A1ovice#TNS_Compute...

It looks like this system was created out of necessity; there was no viable product for what they needed. Necessity is the mother of innovation after all, and we find this sorts of innovation frequently in non-collectivized entrepreneurships as well. Still, very cool!

If it weren't for the Wright Brothers, NASA would never have existed.

Maybe so but I am not arguing with that. The original claim is much weaker: No "collective" produces innovation.

Open source software

There are multiple Kibbutz in Israel that plant and harvest on time and are the major source of innovation for Israel's AgTech sector (which is only behind the US in terms successful startups).

    > most businesses are financed through equity sales

Can you explain this more? As I understand, after equity IPO, most companies use debt capital markets to raise money to expand their business.

You've just changed my brand of flour, thanks.