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Re:Inductive or Deductive? Rethinking the Fundamental Reason... by stavros on Sunday September 01, 2024 @11:40PM (#41422396)
I really dislike these non-sequitur arguments of "LLMs do not reason, because <detail on how they work>", as if a detail on how they work unequivocally proves the impossibility of reasoning.
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Re:Inductive or Deductive? Rethinking the Fundamental Reason... by quantadev on Monday September 02, 2024 @12:02AM (#41422469)
I've noticed that on HackerNews about 80% of all debates or discussions where people disagree, boils down to a disagreement about the definition of a word.
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Re:Inductive or Deductive? Rethinking the Fundamental Reason... by fedeb95 on Monday September 02, 2024 @03:11AM (#41423271)
feel free to extend to other contexts. It was basically Socrates' argument.
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Re:Inductive or Deductive? Rethinking the Fundamental Reason... by throwawaytemp29 on Monday September 02, 2024 @04:24AM (#41423593)
That is certainly true, for some definition of 80%.
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Re:Inductive or Deductive? Rethinking the Fundamental Reason... by slashdave on Monday September 02, 2024 @01:22AM (#41422819)
I see. Well, I claim my pet rock can think. What do you mean it doesn't have brain cells, what kind of argument is that?
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Re:Inductive or Deductive? Rethinking the Fundamental Reason... by Quiark on Monday September 02, 2024 @04:03AM (#41423500)
"This alien super-computer made from entangled iron atoms clearly is not thinking because it doesn't have neurons"

you mean like this?

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Re:Inductive or Deductive? Rethinking the Fundamental Reason... by desumeku on Monday September 02, 2024 @10:33AM (#41425664)
ChatGPT - Our very own alien super-computer!
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Re:Inductive or Deductive? Rethinking the Fundamental Reason... by fragmede on Monday September 02, 2024 @03:08AM (#41423256)
My pet silicon rock was processed by TSMC in a design by Nvidia, and does this trick called inference that very much does look like thinking. Who made yours?
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Re:Inductive or Deductive? Rethinking the Fundamental Reason... by Y_Y on Monday September 02, 2024 @10:30AM (#41425650)
I deem your rock to be disqualified on the basis of its performance clearly having been enhanced by doping.
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