Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought
by deberon on Saturday August 31, 2024 @12:28AM
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In the time it took me to learn a new programming language, my kid learned how to be a whole entire human being. Including free thought and autocorrect mode. I don’t know what makes us special in the animal kingdom, but watching that happen certainly feels special. Do whales feel the same way about their young?
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought
by hungie on Saturday August 31, 2024 @12:35AM
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Whales almost certainly do not feel the same way. They feel like whales about their young. That's not to discount whales: that feeling may be profound and emotional for them. But it's probably alien to the human experience.
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought
by conradev on Saturday August 31, 2024 @02:29AM
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I’m sure their sensory experience is different from ours, but is the feeling truly alien? We share enough genetics to share the same brain chemicals, for one
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought
by rrr_oh_man on Saturday August 31, 2024 @02:34AM
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Why probably?
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought
by hungie on Saturday August 31, 2024 @03:10AM
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I dunno, I've never spoken with a whale to compare notes.
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought
by roenxi on Saturday August 31, 2024 @05:57AM
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For starters, whales aren't tool users. So it'd be something of a surprise if evolution had programmed them to feel joy when their offspring use tools. Humans, on the other hand, seem to get a bit of a kick out of teaching other people (especially kids) to do things which makes a lot of evolutionary sense given how strategically central tools are to our species.
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought
by DFHippie on Saturday August 31, 2024 @06:56AM
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I feel that people who study animal intelligence started with the dictum "don't assume similarity to humans" and immediately interpreted it as "assume dissimilarity to humans".
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought
by stubish on Saturday August 31, 2024 @12:59AM
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One interesting aside in this article was that the crows don't teach each other how to make tools. But a child might steal a tool from a parent and work it out. This demonstrates the problem solving type of intelligence, working out how to reshape a wire to a useful shape for instance. But not a 'higher' intelligence teaching or demonstrating to others. Which is kind of odd, as I see young birds following their parents and imitating and learning. So I guess this shows parent birds don't teach, but young birds instinctively follow around and learn?
The absolutely blistering pace a child can learn at, though, is indeed quite a sight to behold.