Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought

Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by hungie on Saturday August 31, 2024 @12:35AM (#41406578)

Whales almost certainly do not feel the same way. They feel like whales about their young. That's not to discount whales: that feeling may be profound and emotional for them. But it's probably alien to the human experience.

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Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by conradev on Saturday August 31, 2024 @02:29AM (#41406928)

I’m sure their sensory experience is different from ours, but is the feeling truly alien? We share enough genetics to share the same brain chemicals, for one

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Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by rrr_oh_man on Saturday August 31, 2024 @02:34AM (#41406943)

Why probably?

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Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by hungie on Saturday August 31, 2024 @03:10AM (#41407060)

I dunno, I've never spoken with a whale to compare notes.

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Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by roenxi on Saturday August 31, 2024 @05:57AM (#41407684)

For starters, whales aren't tool users. So it'd be something of a surprise if evolution had programmed them to feel joy when their offspring use tools. Humans, on the other hand, seem to get a bit of a kick out of teaching other people (especially kids) to do things which makes a lot of evolutionary sense given how strategically central tools are to our species.

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Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by DFHippie on Saturday August 31, 2024 @06:56AM (#41407896)

I feel that people who study animal intelligence started with the dictum "don't assume similarity to humans" and immediately interpreted it as "assume dissimilarity to humans".

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