Re:Elasticsearch is open source, again
by jacoblambda on Friday August 30, 2024 @07:00PM
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I think it's a difference of scale.
If rando small business or rando dude is just using FOSS software without giving back, whatever people have priorities.
If megacorp is re-boxing it in a closed source manner and making mass profits off of it without dedicating at least some level of engineering hours or money to the project, that's a dick move.
Being unhappy with that situation is totally fine and it's understandable to change the licensing to a more copyleft license to reflect your intents.
That's what elastic did. They essentially went Apache-2.0 -> ... -> AGPLv3 but it took a while for them to figure it out.
And my complaint isn't that people make money off FOSS software or don't give back enough. It's that they make money off FOSS software and don't give back essentially at all while depriving their users of the same rights/licensing terms that the upstream gave them.
Re:Elasticsearch is open source, again
by ok_dad on Friday August 30, 2024 @08:41PM
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In any case, Amazon did give back to Elastic via code commits before the fork, so they didn't just steal the code, they also made it better. I can't believe I am defending Amazon, but this is a hill that I will die on: FOSS means free, as in beer.
If rando small business or rando dude is just using FOSS software without giving back, whatever people have priorities.
If megacorp is re-boxing it in a closed source manner and making mass profits off of it without dedicating at least some level of engineering hours or money to the project, that's a dick move.
Being unhappy with that situation is totally fine and it's understandable to change the licensing to a more copyleft license to reflect your intents.
That's what elastic did. They essentially went Apache-2.0 -> ... -> AGPLv3 but it took a while for them to figure it out.
And my complaint isn't that people make money off FOSS software or don't give back enough. It's that they make money off FOSS software and don't give back essentially at all while depriving their users of the same rights/licensing terms that the upstream gave them.