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Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by findthewords on Friday August 30, 2024 @06:27PM (#41405069)
Alz is brain inflammatory response to viruses (among other foreing detritus) that got past the blood-brain barrier, so I'm not surprised.
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by throwawaymaths on Friday August 30, 2024 @07:04PM (#41405297)
Not fully known but increasing evidence. Pretty stunning result is the discontinuity in all causes dementia for NHS seniors in Wales with the week of birth as the discontinuity point (week of birth is cutoff qualifier for a shingles vaccine)
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by dboreham on Friday August 30, 2024 @07:43PM (#41405509)
The vaccine makes things better, I assume?
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by waterhouse on Friday August 30, 2024 @08:04PM (#41405615)
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by dendrite9 on Saturday August 31, 2024 @03:14AM (#41407077)
That was really interesting, I saw it earlier while logged out and just wanted to say thanks for pointing that out.
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by dyauspitr on Saturday August 31, 2024 @04:19AM (#41407322)
I don’t understand. What do you mean by week of birth as the discontinuity point?
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by ceejayoz on Saturday August 31, 2024 @08:57AM (#41408566)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10246135/

> To provide causal as opposed to merely correlational evidence on this question, we take advantage of the fact that in Wales eligibility for the herpes zoster vaccine (Zostavax) for shingles prevention was determined based on an individual’s exact date of birth. Those born before September 2 1933 were ineligible and remained ineligible for life, while those born on or after September 2 1933 were eligible to receive the vaccine.

Basically, the people born around that date are about as perfect a control-vs-experimental group split you can get in a large population.

Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by _silicon on Friday August 30, 2024 @07:48PM (#41405543)
This is only partly true. There are many different factors increasing risk for Alzheimer’s which include environmental triggers that cause inflammation which can include but are not limited to viruses, bacteria, aging, arthritis, surgery, injury, etc
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by arcticbull on Friday August 30, 2024 @07:50PM (#41405551)
It's quite possible that it's environmental suppression of immunity, aging and/or degradation of the blood brain barrier that permits the viruses to make their way topside. There's some evidence that the amyloid plaques actually exhibit antimicrobial activity and may be an immune response to infection. [1]

In my unsubstantiated opinion it's likely to be herpesviridae that make their way to the brain due to their affinity for nerve tissue and the fact up to 80% of Americans have HSV1. Separately 50% of Americans have cytomegalovirus, another herpes virus. And yet more have HSV6 and HSV8. It's safe to assume over 90% of Americans have some latent herpes-family virus.

It also explains why acyclovir and valacyclovir dramatically reduces the risk of developing dementia.

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-55423-9

[2] https://www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com/news/antivirals-for...

Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by parhamn on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:47PM (#41406066)
> In my unsubstantiated opinion it's likely to be herpesviridae

Curious, would this be hard to verify? To a layman that sounds like something that would be easily detectable under a microscope using samples of brain.

Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by nradov on Saturday August 31, 2024 @10:32AM (#41409136)
Viruses aren't detectable under a regular light microscope. We have other assays that can detect certain viruses but they aren't completely accurate. And getting a sample of brain tissue from a living patient is quite hazardous.
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by shandor on Saturday August 31, 2024 @01:37AM (#41406767)
> It also explains why acyclovir and valacyclovir dramatically reduces the risk of developing dementia.

Sounds fascinating, where could one read more about this? I don’t think I’ve come across this before.

Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by arcticbull on Saturday August 31, 2024 @04:34AM (#41407372)
Here's a couple of studies.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7882534/

[2] https://alzres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13195-021...

And here's a clinical trial that's been running since 2018, scheduled for conclusion at EOY 2024.

[3] https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT03282916

This is a very in-depth hypothesis paper that explains more.

[4] https://core.ac.uk/download/544294788.pdf

Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by canadiantim on Friday August 30, 2024 @08:25PM (#41405750)
Also yeast/candida getting past blood-brain barrier (https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-a-candida-infe...)

Also mold causing mold toxin load, like e.g. ochratoxin A which causes cell death in the memory centres of the brain

Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by unyttigfjelltol on Friday August 30, 2024 @08:29PM (#41405768)
These days I just blame everything on histomine dysfunction and marvel that the medical complex has been so reluctant to pick it up.[1]

[1] https://www.bda.uk.com/resource/caution-advised-with-low-his...

Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by Aurornis on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:12PM (#41405948)
Histamine and MCAS have been adopted by alternative medicine as an explanation for everything, but it’s not supported by science. Dieticians like the one you linked have been coming up with theories for how everything is caused by either too much or too little histamine for years.

MCAS is particularly over diagnosed right now. The number of patients who think they have MCAS based on TikTok and Internet forums is so bad that most doctors have no choice but to assume it’s not a real diagnosis unless the patient has actually supporting test results in their file. Usually when you ask an “MCAS” patient how they were diagnosed, you get a long story about how their vague symptoms can be explained by MCAS according to something they saw on the internet.

The saddest part of the internet MCAS phenomenon is all of the people on Reddit and TikTok who have been convinced they have MCAS and can’t understand why all of the antihistamines and mast cell stabilizers and special diets aren’t fixing their problems. The fact that they probably don’t have MCAS and histamine doesn’t explain their symptoms just can be accepted after they’ve become immersed in online MCAS communities.

Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by hollerith on Saturday August 31, 2024 @12:14AM (#41406506)
You've convinced me that you do not have MCAS.
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by ksenzee on Friday August 30, 2024 @11:08PM (#41406310)
Yeah, it's super fun for folks who do have these diagnoses, and now have to defend them. "The autonomic neurologist who diagnosed me said..." etc.
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by nprateem on Friday August 30, 2024 @11:38PM (#41406402)
When you get ill and what the doctors give you doesn't work you have to research for yourself. Added to that you wonder if you'll ever get better.

My own research was the only way I got clear of an illness I had after what the doctors gave me didn't work.

It's easy to feel like stupid people are falling for reddit bullshit (and if course some are), but reddit is a potentially huge sample of empirical reports. Even if their reasoning is wrong it doesn't always mean they csn't find cures. That's how we got most medicines in history anyway.

Secondly reddit etc are full of highly motivated, desperate people. You might become one yourself one day too. The saddest part is their illness, not their trying to do something about it.

Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by unyttigfjelltol on Saturday August 31, 2024 @08:59AM (#41408571)
I've never heard doctors worry so much I might change my diet as when I read the Wikipedia entry on histomine intolerance.[1] MCAS is one thing, maybe, but the primary diagnostic for histomine intolerance is whether symptoms improve with changes in diet. So, if the whole of TikTok changed their diets with positive results, why would that provoke derision from the medical community as opposed to curiosity?

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histamine_intolerance

Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by meroes on Friday August 30, 2024 @11:04PM (#41406296)
I think so. My uncle had quick case (meaning he died relatively quickly) and I think him having to have every single teeth pulled due to poor oral hygiene might have contributed.
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by resoluteteeth on Friday August 30, 2024 @11:46PM (#41406430)
> Alz is

This one theory that currently doesn't have a lot of hard evidence supporting it. It is a promising theory, but I don't think it is good to state it as if it is established fact.

Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by ekianjo on Saturday August 31, 2024 @06:33AM (#41407807)
oh is that proven with clear evidence? I dont think so.
Re:UK researchers find Alzheimer's-like brain changes in lon... by tim333 on Saturday August 31, 2024 @05:18PM (#41412081)
A problem with that hypothesis is that Alzheimer's is very much found amongst the elderly while virus attacks hit all ages. Not saying that isn't involved but there's more to it.