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Re:A New Wave of Underwater Comms Is Coming by abraae on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:28PM (#41374389)
I'd like to know more about this process. But ultimately, it can only be detrimental to sealife to emit noise into the marine environment.

Imagine someone set up a radio or a noisy machine somewhere in your own vicinity and you had no choice but to listen to it (even at a low volume) all day and night, perhaps for the rest of your life. Tests might or might not show that you were stressed, but you most certainly would be.

Perhaps I am biased from regular snorkelling and enjoying being immersed n a different natural world, and for sure I do have tree-hugger tendencies. But I find it extremely arrogant that our species thinks it's acceptable to inject noise pollution into an environment inhabitated by thousands of other species.

Re:A New Wave of Underwater Comms Is Coming by puzzydunlop on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @08:29PM (#41374815)
Not to get too deep in the underwater weeds here but sound propagation underwater is not omnidirectional like how sound propagates above water. And I’m not sure how true that is either

All that to say, I certainly understand the concern. But I would personally have to see evidence of harm

Re:A New Wave of Underwater Comms Is Coming by HeatrayEnjoyer on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @11:35PM (#41375683)
The Precautionary Principle calls for proof of safety, not proof of harm. Harm is assumed unless proven otherwise.
Re:A New Wave of Underwater Comms Is Coming by cperciva on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @12:27AM (#41375954)
I assume that the Precautionary Principle is harmful and will refuse to accept it until it has been proven safe.
Re:A New Wave of Underwater Comms Is Coming by toast0 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @10:01AM (#41379643)
> Imagine someone set up a radio or a noisy machine somewhere in your own vicinity and you had no choice but to listen to it (even at a low volume) all day and night, perhaps for the rest of your life. Tests might or might not show that you were stressed, but you most certainly would be.

Otoh, some people purposefully setup noise machines to improve sleep and reduce stress. Sometimes a small amount of noise is a good thing.

Re:A New Wave of Underwater Comms Is Coming by villmann on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @10:09AM (#41379725)
"Imagine someone set up a radio or a noisy machine somewhere in your own vicinity and you had no choice but to listen to it", you mean like a mosque :-D
Re:A New Wave of Underwater Comms Is Coming by g8oz on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @09:27PM (#41386312)
Or church bells.