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Re:Surfer: Centralize all your personal data from online pla... by hi-v-rocknroll on Friday August 23, 2024 @01:30AM (#41326417)
The answers to online platforms trafficking in personal data and metadata is two parallel and concurrent efforts:

1. Much tougher data privacy regulations (needed per country)

2. A central trusted, international nonprofit clearinghouse and privacy grants/permissions repository that centralizes basic personal details and provides a central way to update name, address(es), email, etc. that are then used on-demand only by companies (no storage)

By doing these, it simplifies things greatly for people and allows someone to audit and see what every company knows about them, can know about, and can remove allowances for companies they don't agree to. One of the worst cases is the US where personal information is not owned by the individual and there is almost zero control unless it's health related, and can be traded for profit.

Re:Surfer: Centralize all your personal data from online pla... by ianopolous on Friday August 23, 2024 @03:54AM (#41327020)
You might be interested in Peergos for the storage and access control part. We have a profile where you can control access (and revoke) to each field individually. E2EE because most people wont want to self host.

https://peergos.org/posts/social-profile

Re:Surfer: Centralize all your personal data from online pla... by bboygravity on Friday August 23, 2024 @03:23AM (#41326834)
Yes, I agree. I hate web-forms so much that I wrote a Firefox extension that fills them automatically (using LLM).

It sounds to me like what you're describing under 2 is a real usecase for blockchain contracts?

Store your latest data encrypted on-chain and give every 3rd party you trust a key that corresponds to the relevent part of the data?

Curious about opinions on this.

Re:Surfer: Centralize all your personal data from online pla... by pogue on Friday August 23, 2024 @04:56AM (#41327323)
Can you share this Firefox extension? Sounds super handy!
Re:Surfer: Centralize all your personal data from online pla... by hi-v-rocknroll on Friday August 23, 2024 @05:49AM (#41327605)
I'm not talking about a distributed or self-hosted technical solution, but a centralized trusted nonprofit organization. Technology alone can't automate away privacy management issues.
Re:Surfer: Centralize all your personal data from online pla... by slalani304 on Friday August 23, 2024 @08:01AM (#41328226)
3rd party would only have read access, I'm assuming? Also would love to try out the extension.
Re:Surfer: Centralize all your personal data from online pla... by BodyCulture on Friday August 23, 2024 @04:55AM (#41327319)
Will you use a central trusted, international nonprofit clearinghouse and privacy grants/permissions repository that is run by the government of China / Iran / [state]?

It is important for privacy activists to understand that „centralised“ is an anti-pattern for privacy.

Instead we need security and control over our data on devices and internet platforms guaranteed by the law.

Re:Surfer: Centralize all your personal data from online pla... by slalani304 on Friday August 23, 2024 @08:01AM (#41328215)
The second one sounds something similar to the Solid project, which is what Tim Berners-Lee is currently working on: https://solidproject.org/.
Re:Surfer: Centralize all your personal data from online pla... by bdominy on Friday August 23, 2024 @10:17AM (#41329235)
I created an app to do end-to-end encrypted contact info sharing and updating with your second point in mind. By holding only encrypted data that can't be accessed by us, people will hopefully trust their contact info is only in the hands of people they want. https://neu.cards
Re:Surfer: Centralize all your personal data from online pla... by zamubafoo on Friday August 23, 2024 @10:51AM (#41329521)
Or it just all happens on the client side before it even hits the Internet. I would love if Firefox allowed users to use Postgres instead of sqlite to store their places.sqlite database.