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Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by spacebacon on Saturday August 17, 2024 @08:27AM (#41274040)
How does 3 regions of the brain translate to 3 copies of the same memory?

With entanglement they all work together to form the one memory no?

I’m not convinced the same memory is even isolated to one brain.

Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by RaftPeople on Saturday August 17, 2024 @11:34AM (#41275256)
> How does 3 regions of the brain translate to 3 copies of the same memory?

The actual paper goes into more detail: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk0997

Here's a blurb from the paper that partially answers your question:

> Late-born neurons were preferentially recruited for retrieval at short latency after acquisition, whereas early-born neurons were preferentially recruited at later times. These divergent trajectories recapitulated reactivation dynamics recorded through longitudinal calcium imaging experiments, which further revealed distinct network-wide responses between subpopulations.

Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by a3n on Saturday August 17, 2024 @09:15AM (#41274352)
I had the same question as your first sentence.

I'm not sure I understand your second sentence, as I don't follow "entanglement news." Is entanglement currently being seen as taking part in everything, everywhere? Specifically in brain processes?

I'm intrigued by your third sentence.

I look forward to more sentences.

Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by rcxdude on Saturday August 17, 2024 @09:55AM (#41274614)
There is a (decidedly non-mainstream) idea that brain processes involve large-scale quantum effects, that quantum effects beyond just the normally expected biochemistry are essential to the functioning of the brain. There's not really much empirical evidence for it, and about the only theoretical argument is that the brain is much more efficient than a computer. I think people tend to like it because it makes brains (or more specifically human minds) feel more special.
Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by jncfhnb on Saturday August 17, 2024 @10:21AM (#41274796)
Quantum mechanics and consciousness are both weird and therefore are equivalent
Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by Flop7331 on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:19PM (#41275591)
I saw that movie. It also tried to put water memory across as fact.
Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by zoklet-enjoyer on Saturday August 17, 2024 @11:23AM (#41275189)
There's a guy in Twitter who thinks that the brain is an antenna that receives consciousness, or something like that. I'll see if I can find it, but it's kind of hard to navigate Twitter since I got banned.

Edit: I couldn't find it. Something about microtubules

Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by wizzwizz4 on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:15PM (#41275565)
Are these microtubules located in the Pineal gland?
Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by zoklet-enjoyer on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:36PM (#41275709)
Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by michaelcampbell on Sunday August 18, 2024 @09:34AM (#41282296)
One of "those guys" is Sir Roger Penrose.

A quick search on "microtubule consciousness" brings forth an enormous amount of spilled digital ink on the subject.

Sabine Hossenfelder had a "science daily" video about it recently on Youtube. Worth a watch/listen.

https://backreaction.blogspot.com/2024/05/brain-really-uses-...

Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by michaelcampbell on Saturday August 17, 2024 @09:57AM (#41274629)
> Is entanglement currently being seen as taking part in everything, everywhere?

Not necessarily what they're saying here (I couldn't grok it either), but there's a bunch of woo being purveyed about "quantum consciousness" by Deepak Chopra recently. Some debates with Sam Harris are fun to watch.

Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by detourdog on Saturday August 17, 2024 @10:01AM (#41274660)
I think they used to be called morphogenic fields by Rupert Sheldrake.
Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by detourdog on Saturday August 17, 2024 @09:13AM (#41274333)
I see what you are saying. It may take three regions of the brain to activate to form a memory.
Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by layer8 on Saturday August 17, 2024 @09:59AM (#41274642)
Should be easy to test by selective lobotomy.
Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by dustypotato on Saturday August 17, 2024 @08:30AM (#41274063)
Are you talking about neuronal clusters in other parts of the body
Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by spacebacon on Saturday August 17, 2024 @09:14AM (#41274336)
I theorize Information may simultaneously entangle neurons around the world. Not just a humans brains.
Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by dymk on Saturday August 17, 2024 @09:18AM (#41274381)
Please elaborate, this sounds fascinating
Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by spacebacon on Saturday August 17, 2024 @09:23AM (#41274413)
I sincerely appreciate your interest.

Let’s start with familiarizing with a large collection of sign systems we know about…

https://github.com/space-bacon/SignSystems/blob/main/Codex-o...

Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by trunch on Saturday August 17, 2024 @10:23AM (#41274816)
Intrigued by the project, love the idea of exhaustively exploring significance for arbitrary input.

Think you need to provide a few example inputs and outputs on the github for the program.

Also not sure a project focused on decoding meaning and signals benefits from having AI generated interpretations divorced from the inherently human act of sign interpretation. Can be seen in the md file, such a rigidly enforced structured output has forced it to give some averaged amount of weight to different categories and examples, when many are facets of each-other, or purely just expressions of something mentioned earlier. I can see free-form high-temperature llm outputs fed to another model, which serves only to aggregate their core interpretations, providing more insight than what's within the document currently.

Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by spacebacon on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:46PM (#41275807)
Thanks, I agree with that input.

What are your thoughts on this from a conceptual lens?

https://github.com/space-bacon/Semiotic-Analysis-Tool

Re:Brain found to store three copies of every memory by spacebacon on Saturday August 17, 2024 @09:42AM (#41274535)
Each of these systems contribute to information. They may be closely entangled (compared to say a rock on mars) or have more entanglement due to proximity. This “entanglement” may relay universal truths or even advanced theories on itself at the speed of information.