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Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by consp on Saturday August 17, 2024 @05:55AM (#41273172)
Having short term contracts solved this a long time ago and is mostly a fallacy.
Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by Leherenn on Saturday August 17, 2024 @07:09AM (#41273580)
Short term contracts have pretty big downsides though. It's basically impossible to get a mortgage on a short term contract, or more generally any kind of loan. Even renting is difficult.

That's why many EU countries have pretty strict limitations on short term contracts, like how many you can do in a row. It results in a huge reliance on contractors.

Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by lazide on Saturday August 17, 2024 @07:16AM (#41273621)
Short term contracts are basically taking the entirety of the ‘shit’ end of the stick for someone else, and are way worse than the median tech job in the US conditions wise.
Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by refurb on Saturday August 17, 2024 @06:22AM (#41273318)
How is a short term contract a solution? It sounds like you don’t have a job at the end of the contract?
Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by lazyasciiart on Saturday August 17, 2024 @06:39AM (#41273399)
Yes, but you know when that will happen.
Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by lazide on Saturday August 17, 2024 @07:16AM (#41273625)
Soon. Maybe, since it could get renewed eh?

The US also has contractors.

Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by ekianjo on Saturday August 17, 2024 @11:37PM (#41279964)
nope. you dont invest the same way in a 6 month contractor that you are not sure to renew down the road as you would for a full time employee. And this goes both ways. The contractor has not much incentive to perform well either.
Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by Timon3 on Sunday August 18, 2024 @08:24AM (#41281925)
> And this goes both ways. The contractor has not much incentive to perform well either.

Can you explain your thoughts here a bit further? The short term contract can be renewed or replaced with a full time contract. This should provide extra incentive to perform well compared to a full time employee (who doesn't have to worry about either), as long the as the company is a good employer.

Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by johnnyanmac on Sunday August 18, 2024 @04:42PM (#41285324)
>The short term contract can be renewed or replaced with a full time contract.

As someone in games, this is exactly the road to getting exploited. "If I work harder and really wow them with this feature, I could get full time work!" meanwhile, there were plans to not renew anyone at the end of the project and to lay off full time workers. But you get a convinient carrot to lure starry-eyed devs with

Your "as long as the company is a good employer" is doing Atlas levels of lifing here.

Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by Timon3 on Monday August 19, 2024 @12:00PM (#41292152)
Sure, that's my point. There is nothing inherent in short term contracts that makes employees less invested - that's your fault as a company.
Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by johnnyanmac on Monday August 19, 2024 @12:24PM (#41292390)
Burn too much good will and people will treat the contract as a contract. And not a hope to impress the boss for a ft role. Another short term exploitation that turns into long term cynicism.

I don't think that's happening in games or tech, but it's been widely observed that Gen Z is less invested in corporate than ever before (or from the boomer's POV: "nobody wants to work anymore").

Re:X to pay €550k to employee fired for not replying to yes-... by Timon3 on Monday August 19, 2024 @12:45PM (#41292563)
Sadly, that's what happens when everything is treated as a resource in exchange for short-term gains. Employees, good will, any morals and ethics - all will be sacrificed on the altar of shareholder value.