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Re:We Picked AGPL by mrwyz on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @01:47PM (#41248678)
The AGPL is great, even for business. I make a living from AGPL software. Lots of people generally don't like it, because AGPL was not written to please the largest number of developers, but rather to protect the basic software freedoms of end-users. In a sense, the AGPL guarantees more freedoms, is more free, than other licenses such as MIT/BSD for end-users. But depends on the point of view.

Many developers don’t like to have their freedom to steal to be restricted by such strong terms as those imposed by the AGPL. And that’s a good thing for you, my fellow maintainers. It’s also a great thing for you, dear end-users.

Re:We Picked AGPL by baggy_trough on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @01:49PM (#41248697)
"freedom to steal"?
Re:We Picked AGPL by mrwyz on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @01:50PM (#41248705)
MIT/BSD and similar ones.
Re:We Picked AGPL by baggy_trough on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @01:50PM (#41248712)
I don't know what you mean.
Re:We Picked AGPL by mrwyz on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @01:52PM (#41248727)
BSD/MIT allows you to take code without any obligation to contribute back.
Re:We Picked AGPL by baggy_trough on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @01:55PM (#41248760)
Using code that is freely given is not in any sense stealing.
Re:We Picked AGPL by mrwyz on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @02:03PM (#41248841)
Only if you think taking the work of others and profiting from it without contributing anything back is fine.
Re:We Picked AGPL by g15jv2dp on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @02:33PM (#41249123)
The people who did the work obviously think it's fine, otherwise they wouldn't have licensed it under such a permissive licence.
Re:We Picked AGPL by mrwyz on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @02:56PM (#41249339)
Certainly. MIT/BSD more or less says: steal away (but retain this license notice). In some cases that's desirable.
Re:We Picked AGPL by baggy_trough on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @03:24PM (#41249606)
Is it stealing if somebody gives you a present and you accept it?
Re:We Picked AGPL by bigstrat2003 on Thursday August 15, 2024 @06:26PM (#41261125)
I am not going to debate whether it's "fine", but it's certainly not stealing. If I make someone a beautiful necklace and they sell it in an auction, I might wish they hadn't done that with my gift - but they haven't stolen anything either.
Re:We Picked AGPL by saul-paterson on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @04:24PM (#41250108)
Steal from the users of the software, yes. It's not about developers, it was never really about developers if we're talking copyleft licenses.
Re:We Picked AGPL by sneak on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @09:50PM (#41252465)
Using a gift freely given isn’t stealing. Just as all other forms of copying data are not stealing.

Obviously.