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Re:San Francisco takes harder line against homeless camps, d... by dmitrygr on Saturday August 03, 2024 @07:59PM (#41150175)
> there may be a path forward that doesn't require it.

pray tell

Re:San Francisco takes harder line against homeless camps, d... by klyrs on Saturday August 03, 2024 @08:30PM (#41150281)
I said so upthread, Harlem River House is the model. Government building out large and livable housing.
Re:San Francisco takes harder line against homeless camps, d... by Cupertino95014 on Saturday August 03, 2024 @09:12PM (#41150458)
Did you also say that compulsion is OK, if Harlem River House-level housing is available?

A little research shows this to be a New Deal project that doesn't seem particularly replicable or sustainable:

https://www.courthousenews.com/harlem-public-housing-tenants...

https://pix11.com/news/3-big-problems-plague-harlem-river-ho...

Re:San Francisco takes harder line against homeless camps, d... by klyrs on Saturday August 03, 2024 @09:21PM (#41150490)
Holy shit, for the third time in a row, no, I am not okay with authoritarianism. I said that with sufficient housing, it should not be necessary. No. No compulsion.
Re:San Francisco takes harder line against homeless camps, d... by UIUC_06 on Sunday August 04, 2024 @12:19AM (#41151126)
> it should not be necessary

there's that juvenile sentiment again. And there "shouldn't" be any burglaries, car thefts, armed robbery, or murder, either. Nevertheless, they've always existed and always will. And compulsion will always be a part of the civilized state.

Re:San Francisco takes harder line against homeless camps, d... by klyrs on Sunday August 04, 2024 @05:08AM (#41152121)
My "should" is well supported in global trends. And American exceptionalism in this regard is self-perpetuating.
Re:San Francisco takes harder line against homeless camps, d... by UIUC_06 on Sunday August 04, 2024 @11:30AM (#41154164)
> global trends

and yet you won't name any of your ideal cities, nor comment on the Harlem House, that New Deal-era paradigm. Or note that people living in there are paying rents, albeit subsidized. But you want to give homeless people that, except for free.

"Inchoate yearnings" pretty well describes it for you.